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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thank you for that example provided by Frank. That
is another feather to our hat in helping the clients who want to prepare that
way. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I also with Harrison's reservations about topics
pre-posted. The richness is in being there and experiencing the cream that's
floating at the top of the milk at that moment....and enriching it
exponentialy.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Happy New Year to all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Diane G.</FONT></DIV>
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Brandon</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 02, 2007 9:45
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: using a wiki to post OS
topics before Opening the Space]</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I'm enjoying what Frank has set up at <A
href="http://newenglandsos.wetpaint.com/page/REGISTRATION">http://newenglandsos.wetpaint.com/page/REGISTRATION</A>
<DIV>No topics, but a sense of who is coming, for networking, carpooling,
etc. </DIV>
<DIV>Browse around the site -- interesting options for sharing of
responsibilities.</DIV>
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<DIV>On Jan 2, 2007, at 9:22 AM, Phelim McDermott wrote:</DIV><BR
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">What I find interesting about the dynamic of
preposting is that it starts to limit my imagination about what the event is
going to be like and then consequently whether i will come or not.
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<DIV>"Oh it's them/me going on about that issue again! etc..
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<DIV>If I don't know what the issues are going to be they are all bubbling
away in my mind and the event is as exciting or as boring as MY imagination
makes it and they are My dreams and demons... As soon as the issues are
stated then it easy for me to become separate from that process. For me it's
as pointless or as uninspiring as trying to imagine whether an improvised
gig is going to be fun or not.. or for that matter trying to plan for that
by thinking of some funny jokes beforehand..!</DIV>
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<DIV>..... now about those New Year's Resolutions.</DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV>Have a good one!</DIV>
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<DIV>Phelim
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<DIV>On 2 Jan 2007, at 06:13, Michael Herman wrote:</DIV><BR
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">what i usually tell clients is that an OS meeting
is a fantastic opportunity. once the whole group is in the room,
everyone can realize this immediately. now things that were
previously unthinkable are suddenly not only thinkable, but
actionable. so the opportunity is very clear as soon as we get
everyone in teh room... and until then, it's hard to imagine what issues
could be raised, because most folks won't appreciate or imagine just how
much energy and attention will be available in the room. so i mostly
encourage not posting topics. if they're wiki people, sometimes what
we've done is post answers to "why i'm coming", mostly to give people a
way to start thinking and imagining who will be there.
<BR><BR>mh<BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 1/1/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Harrison
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">For me the real
issue is -- when is space open, and what sort of space? I have seen
organizations that use wiki-type format all the time, and so when they
do an OST, it is just an extension, but in a different format. I think
it is radically different if the wiki stuff takes on the life and
function of "planning" the meeting." At that point it seems to me that
it becomes quite counterproductive, and actually closes space before it
ever truly opens. In the worst case scenario, people get stuck with the
agenda they posted (on wiki or whatever) simply because they posted it.
Hoisted on their own petard so to speak. The old argument that
pre-planning the agenda insures that no issue is lost, and further that
thinking about the issues before arrival raises quality is a dog the
won't hunt, I think. Sounds very logical, but I have never seen a shred
of evidence that it was valid. Indeed quite the opposite. Pre-planned
agendas insure irrelevance – yesterday's news! Worse than that, it is
boring.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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attendees won't have seen the pre-announced topics, nor remember the
ones they read, so the self-organization and chaos of the opening is
preserved AND those that are very interested in what a person says about
herself, can make sure to find and meet that person. Again, this
is self-organization. We wouldn't want to forbid pre-posting of
topics, would we? That seems contrary to our role as facilitators.
<BR><BR>peace,<BR>ted</SPAN></FONT></P>
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idea to post issues before an<BR>event. If this is done, it
will lead people to form responses in<BR>advance and defend them during
discussions in breakout groups, which<BR>will leave people less open to
hearing new views.<BR><BR>It also diminishes the chaos at the beginning
of events when issues<BR>start tumbling out and people start to get
excited and decide where<BR>they want to work .<BR><BR>All the very best
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