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<DIV>"..... now about those New Year's Resolutions.</DIV>
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<DIV>Have a good one!........"</DIV>
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<DIV>here is one resolution : </DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder><FONT color=#0000ff>IMPROVISATIONS
ONLY!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>funda</DIV>
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<A title=phelim@mac.com href="mailto:phelim@mac.com">Phelim McDermott</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:22
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: using a wiki to post OS
topics before Opening the Space]</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>What I find interesting about the dynamic of preposting is that
it starts to limit my imagination about what the event is going to be like and
then consequently whether i will come or not.
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<DIV>"Oh it's them/me going on about that issue again! etc..
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<DIV>If I don't know what the issues are going to be they are all bubbling
away in my mind and the event is as exciting or as boring as MY imagination
makes it and they are My dreams and demons... As soon as the issues are stated
then it easy for me to become separate from that process. For me it's as
pointless or as uninspiring as trying to imagine whether an improvised gig is
going to be fun or not.. or for that matter trying to plan for that by
thinking of some funny jokes beforehand..!</DIV>
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<DIV>..... now about those New Year's Resolutions.</DIV>
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<DIV>Have a good one!</DIV>
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<DIV>Phelim
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<DIV>On 2 Jan 2007, at 06:13, Michael Herman wrote:</DIV><BR
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">what i usually tell clients is that an OS meeting is
a fantastic opportunity. once the whole group is in the room, everyone
can realize this immediately. now things that were previously
unthinkable are suddenly not only thinkable, but actionable. so the
opportunity is very clear as soon as we get everyone in teh room... and
until then, it's hard to imagine what issues could be raised, because most
folks won't appreciate or imagine just how much energy and attention will be
available in the room. so i mostly encourage not posting topics.
if they're wiki people, sometimes what we've done is post answers to "why
i'm coming", mostly to give people a way to start thinking and imagining who
will be there. <BR><BR>mh<BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 1/1/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Harrison
Owen</B> <<A href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</A>>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">For me the real
issue is -- when is space open, and what sort of space? I have seen
organizations that use wiki-type format all the time, and so when they do
an OST, it is just an extension, but in a different format. I think it is
radically different if the wiki stuff takes on the life and function of
"planning" the meeting." At that point it seems to me that it becomes
quite counterproductive, and actually closes space before it ever truly
opens. In the worst case scenario, people get stuck with the agenda they
posted (on wiki or whatever) simply because they posted it. Hoisted on
their own petard so to speak. The old argument that pre-planning the
agenda insures that no issue is lost, and further that thinking about the
issues before arrival raises quality is a dog the won't hunt, I think.
Sounds very logical, but I have never seen a shred of evidence that it was
valid. Indeed quite the opposite. Pre-planned agendas insure irrelevance –
yesterday's news! Worse than that, it is boring.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On the other
hand, I've experienced this phenomenon as well, and the vast majority of
attendees won't have seen the pre-announced topics, nor remember the ones
they read, so the self-organization and chaos of the opening is preserved
AND those that are very interested in what a person says about herself,
can make sure to find and meet that person. Again, this is
self-organization. We wouldn't want to forbid pre-posting of topics,
would we? That seems contrary to our role as facilitators.
<BR><BR>peace,<BR>ted</SPAN></FONT></P>
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idea to post issues before an<BR>event. If this is done, it
will lead people to form responses in<BR>advance and defend them during
discussions in breakout groups, which<BR>will leave people less open to
hearing new views.<BR><BR>It also diminishes the chaos at the beginning of
events when issues<BR>start tumbling out and people start to get excited
and decide where<BR>they want to work .<BR><BR>All the very best in
2007! May your space continue to
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