what i usually tell clients is that an OS meeting is a fantastic opportunity.  once the whole group is in the room, everyone can realize this immediately.  now things that were previously unthinkable are suddenly not only thinkable, but actionable.  so the opportunity is very clear as soon as we get everyone in teh room... and until then, it's hard to imagine what issues could be raised, because most folks won't appreciate or imagine just how much energy and attention will be available in the room.  so i mostly encourage not posting topics.  if they're wiki people, sometimes what we've done is post answers to "why i'm coming", mostly to give people a way to start thinking and imagining who will be there.  
<br><br>mh<br><br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 1/1/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Harrison Owen</b> <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">












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<p><font color="red" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;">For me the real issue is -- when is space
open, and what sort of space? I have seen organizations that use wiki-type
format all the time, and so when they do an OST, it is just an extension, but
in a different format. I think it is radically different if the wiki stuff
takes on the life and function of "planning" the meeting." At
that point it seems to me that it becomes quite counterproductive, and actually
closes space before it ever truly opens. In the worst case scenario, people get
stuck with the agenda they posted (on wiki or whatever) simply because they
posted it. Hoisted on their own petard so to speak. The old argument that
pre-planning the agenda insures that no issue is lost, and further that thinking
about the issues before arrival raises quality is a dog the won't hunt, I
think. Sounds very logical, but I have never seen a shred of evidence that it
was valid. Indeed quite the opposite. Pre-planned agendas insure irrelevance –
yesterday's news! Worse than that, it is boring.</span></font></p>

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<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On
Behalf Of </span></b>Ted Ernst<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, January 01, 2007
12:14 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: using a wiki to post
OS topics before Opening the Space]</span></font></p>

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<p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On the
other hand, I've experienced this phenomenon as well, and the vast majority of
attendees won't have seen the pre-announced topics, nor remember the ones they
read, so the self-organization and chaos of the opening is preserved AND those
that are very interested in what a person says about herself, can make sure to
find and meet that person.  Again, this is self-organization.  We
wouldn't want to forbid pre-posting of topics, would we?  That seems
contrary to our role as facilitators. <br>
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peace,<br>
ted</span></font></p>

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<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On 1/1/07, <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Kerry</span></b> <<a href="mailto:k@napuk.demon.co.uk" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
k@napuk.demon.co.uk</a>> wrote:</span></font></span></p>

<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hi<br>
<br>
I, for one, do not feel it is a good idea to post issues before an<br>
event.  If this is done, it will lead people to form responses in<br>
advance and defend them during discussions in breakout groups, which<br>
will leave people less open to hearing new views.<br>
<br>
It also diminishes the chaos at the beginning of events when issues<br>
start tumbling out and people start to get excited and decide where<br>
they want to work .<br>
<br>
All the very best in 2007!  May your space continue to open.<br>
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Cheers<br>
<br>
Kerry<br>
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