another word that's coming to my mind is "expectations." my apologies if it's already been discussed and i missed it in previous messages.<br><br>if the sponsor and others expect some type of breakthrough during one meeting, anything short of it could be determined as average or even below average. <br><br>if they are open to experimenting with a new approach to convening people and are sincerely interested in inviting people to fully engage, hopefully they'll see that the first open space meeting is merely the beginning of a new way of being in organizations. thus, to draw a lot conclusions after one meeting may be a waste of time.<br><br>i'm reminded of how important it is for we facilitators to be talking about issues like this with sponsors when considering using open space. michael herman and chris corrigan and others on the list often talk about the importance of seeing this as a type of "practice." <br><br>we're wanting to nurture new habits and attitudes. i suspect
we're setting the stakes rather high to expect this will happen in one meeting. of-course, we want to be open to it (new habits and attitudes forming), welcome and embrace it when it happens but not be disappointed when it doesn't.<br> <br>john<br><br><br><b><i>C isa Kocher <cik@ttnet.net.tr></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"><title>"Failure"</title> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas:contacts" name="Sn"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas:contacts" name="GivenName"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="country-region"> <o:SmartTagType
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