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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’m open to helping wherever I can.
Sometimes, all that I can bring is what feels simple in me.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Chris Corrigan has helped me a bunch on
this. When I feel frustrated, etc. he has encouraged a stepping back –
people want to do things better. Make better managers. Improve a process, etc.
OS is one of the ways to help accomplish that.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Steve Woodall<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 02, 2006
6:57 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Proximity and Open
Space after presentations</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hope you don't mind a lurker chiming in here. As a guy who has been
(and is) in a couple of those organizations Tennyson mentions....and
struggles with finding a way to open the space, I'd hope that when you get a
call from me, or another explorer, you'll be open to going in there and doing
what you can. Most organizations have some folk who want to move toward better
space; sometimes they're fortunate enough to be in a space where they can
assert a little leadership to start down that path. But it is a dimly lit path
and many of their colleagues will discourage them. Those who've been down it
must come back and light the way, offering guidance and reassurance to the
newbies. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Seems like we have to fight the desire to only open space when we're
sure it's safe?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Steve Woodall<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:76066.515@compuserve.com" title="76066.515@compuserve.com">douglas
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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU"
title="OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Wednesday,
November 01, 2006 9:32 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: Proximity and
Open Space after presentations<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Zelle--<br>
<br>
Fantastic! That was just the sort of low-down I wanted. Now I have a<br>
good idea what you mean. <br>
<br>
It is a wonderful way to open some space for people who often find it<br>
closed by the "do-me" meetings so prevalent in our society. You are
to<br>
be congratulated for being innovative in opening these spaces.<br>
<br>
Which brings me to something you told me off-line a few months ago,<br>
something I think others might be interested in conversing around out<br>
here in the open spaces (if you are willing): how you view opening space<br>
in corporations and hierarchical organizations and similar settings<br>
which seem to me to prefer closed spaces and control. Why spend your<br>
time and energy trying to convince people against their natural<br>
inclinations? Is it not an uphill battle, and would it not be better to<br>
work where the seed could fall on more fertile soil?<br>
<br>
:- Doug.<br>
<br>
On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 19:15 -0500, Zelle Nelson wrote:<br>
> Hi Doug, Chris, Herman, et al.,<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Chris mentioned the speaker setting the right tone. One way we<br>
> accomplish this <br>
> is to have the speaker talk from a circle of chairs, not to theater<br>
> style seating (this <br>
> also makes for a very efficient, and immediate transition to OS). see<br>
> the graphic <br>
> down the right side of the page at:<br>
> <a href="http://engagingthesoulatwork.com/engagingthesoul.htm">http://engagingthesoulatwork.com/engagingthesoul.htm</a><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> The invitation is "What thoughts, ideas, actions have been sparked by<br>
> this <br>
> speech? What did you learn and what do you want to take away from this<br>
> speech <br>
> going forward?"<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> One OS event after a speaker I posted on the <st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>
was after a<br>
> political <br>
> candidate:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Out of an short (3 hour) OS following a speech given by presidential<br>
> hopeful <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Col.</st1:place></st1:country-region>
<br>
> Robert Bowman in the summer of 2004, the Kindness Campaign - <br>
> <a href="http://www.thekindnesscampaign.org">www.thekindnesscampaign.org</a>
was created and has been sustained to the <br>
> present in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Asheville</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">NC</st1:State></st1:place>. There were 50? participants. We did 15
min<br>
> action at the <br>
> end after a 20 min closing circle. I believe the speech was 45 min and<br>
> that would <br>
> make the OS 2.25 hours. The whole event was maybe 4 hours one evening.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> These were the topics, and action round topics:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Topic 1:
Electing Progressive Representatives<br>
>
Convener: <st1:place
w:st="on">Clyde</st1:place> Michael Morgan<br>
> <br>
> Topic 2:
The Current Extinction Crisis<br>
>
Convener:
Greg Wilcox<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Topic 3:
The People of the World are with Us – We are the<br>
> Majority – How do we Spread the Word?<br>
> <br>
>
Convener:
Robin<br>
> <br>
> Topic 4:
How can we help the under 30 crowd and other<br>
> citizens feel empowered enough to get involved in the political<br>
> process?<br>
> <br>
>
Convener:
Cathy S.<br>
> <br>
> Topic 5:
Local Power Over Economy<br>
>
Convener:
Kevin <br>
> <br>
> Topic 5:
Peace Dividend<br>
>
Convener:
Brad Dienst<br>
> <br>
> Topic 6:
Explore ways to identify and speak about the<br>
> fundamental truths about which our government is
doing. <br>
> <br>
> <br>
>
Convener:
Hugh Huntington<br>
> <br>
> Topic 7:
Patriot Act – How to get our freedom back<br>
>
Convener:
Pamela<br>
> <br>
> Topic 8:
Unifying Global Resistance<br>
>
Convener:
Mark<br>
> <br>
> Topic 9:
Bringing Heart, Soul, Creativity, and Bliss to<br>
> Politics<br>
>
Convener:
Daniel<br>
> <br>
> Topic
10:
Leadership Training<br>
>
Convener:
Rich Livernois<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Action Notes:<br>
> <br>
> Topic A:
Who wants to be in a network of people accepting<br>
> REAL money, not Federal Reserve Notes<br>
> <br>
>
Convener:
Kevin<br>
> <br>
> Topic B:
How to start a kindness campaign in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Asheville</st1:place></st1:City><br>
> Convener:
Barry Weinhold<br>
> <br>
> Topic C:
Let’s Stay in touch with a Yahoo group or<br>
> something similar. Let’s work together<br>
> <br>
>
Convener: <st1:place
w:st="on">Clyde</st1:place> Michale Morsan<br>
> <br>
> Topic D:
Institutionalizing Change: Department of Peace;<br>
> Ombudsman, Reform<br>
> <br>
>
Convener:
Grant Miller<br>
> <br>
> Topic E:
Finding ways to speak the truth about our<br>
> government<br>
>
Convener:
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Hue</st1:place></st1:City><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> We just did 1/2 day World Cafe; 1.5 days of OS interspersed with<br>
> presentations ~ <br>
> 1-2 presentations, followed by 3 hours of OS; 1-2 presentations<br>
> followed by 3 <br>
> hours of OS; 1-2 presentations, followed by 3 hours of OS; finishing<br>
> with a day of <br>
> action rounds. There were 80 people from bp. We've been asked to do<br>
> their next <br>
> meeting and in the "after action review" all the items the
planning<br>
> team wanted to <br>
> be covered were covered, plus a hairy elephant was talked about and<br>
> moved <br>
> towards resolution.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> However you look at it, when you open more space, people get what they<br>
> need. <br>
> All we do when we put together Open Space and a keynote speech or <br>
> presentation is combine the one-way learning phase of life with the<br>
> multi-input <br>
> way of learning way of life which is Open Space. The process is<br>
> happening all the <br>
> time, but not always one after the other, or moving in between the<br>
> two, and <br>
> sponsored by the same organization. We're just directly linking what<br>
> has been the <br>
> model for many years - one-way/single input learning and another way<br>
> to learn - <br>
> multi-input learning.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> You know in Open Space ~ fantastic results! <br>
> <br>
> with grace and love,<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Zelle<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Zelle Nelson<br>
> Know Place Like Home/Engaging the <a href="mailto:Soul@Work/State">Soul@Work/State</a>
of Grace Document<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <a href="http://www.knowplacelikehome.com">www.knowplacelikehome.com</a><br>
> <a href="http://www.engagingthesoulatwork.com">www.engagingthesoulatwork.com</a><br>
> <a href="http://www.stateofgracedocument.com">www.stateofgracedocument.com</a><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <a href="mailto:zelle@knowplacelikehome.com">zelle@knowplacelikehome.com</a><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> work/home: (001) 828.693.0802<br>
> mobile: (001) 847.951.7030<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <st1:place w:st="on">Isle of Skye</st1:place><br>
> <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">2021 Greenville Hwy</st1:address></st1:Street><br>
> Flat <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Rock</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">NC</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">28731</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><br>
> <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
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> <br>
> On Oct 26, 2006, at 10:24 PM, <st1:place w:st="on">douglas</st1:place>
germann wrote:<br>
> <br>
> > Zelle--<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Great picture you give.<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Can you say a little about what you mean by fantastic results?<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > I am even more curious about what the topics and invitations look<br>
> > like<br>
> > for those "3-hour following OSTs." This sounds truly
exciting. Can<br>
> > you<br>
> > put some more meat on those bones for us all?<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Thanks, Zelle! And say Hi to Maureen, too, for me. How is she doing?<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > :- Doug.<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > On Thu, 2006-10-26 at 11:50 -0400, Zelle Nelson wrote:<br>
> > > Hi Doug,<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Proximity: very elegant!<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Maureen and I have been offering and delivering Open Space after<br>
> > > keynote <br>
> > > speeches, after presentations in corporate meetings, after<br>
> > > political speeches - <br>
> > > anywhere we can open up space and allow everyone to be the
expert<br>
> > > or<br>
> > > at least <br>
> > > ask questions about what was a spark for them. It works incredibly<br>
> > > well.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Generally, we hold a 3 hour Open Space after keynote speeches.
In<br>
> > > terms of <br>
> > > presentations in corporate meetings, there will sometimes be<br>
> > > multiple <br>
> > > presentations in the mornings and then hold Open Space in the<br>
> > > afternoons. <br>
> > > We've had fantastic results!<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > with grace and love,<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Zelle<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Zelle Nelson<br>
> > > Know Place Like Home/Engaging the <a
href="mailto:Soul@Work/State">Soul@Work/State</a> of Grace<br>
> > > Document<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <a href="http://www.knowplacelikehome.com">www.knowplacelikehome.com</a><br>
> > > <a href="http://www.engagingthesoulatwork.com">www.engagingthesoulatwork.com</a><br>
> > > <a href="http://www.stateofgracedocument.com">www.stateofgracedocument.com</a><br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <a href="mailto:zelle@knowplacelikehome.com">zelle@knowplacelikehome.com</a><br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > work/home: (001) 828.693.0802<br>
> > > mobile: (001) 847.951.7030<br>
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> > > 2021 <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Greenville</st1:place></st1:City>
Hwy<br>
> > > Flat <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Rock</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">NC</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">28731</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><br>
> > > <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
> > > <br>
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> > > <br>
> > > <br>
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> > > <br>
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> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > On Oct 26, 2006, at 10:35 AM, <st1:place w:st="on">douglas</st1:place>
germann wrote:<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > > Hi all--<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > Chris's Tao of Holding Space stopped me in my mental tracks
last<br>
> > > > night<br>
> > > > with one word: proximity.<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > What we are about in opening space is bringing people into<br>
> > > > proximity,<br>
> > > > yes?<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > Proximity: notice what can happen when we bring people who
care<br>
> > > > near<br>
> > > > each other. Ideas bounce and blend and reproduce. Passions<br>
> > > > infuse.<br>
> > > > Keep<br>
> > > > us in tightly sealed containers and nothing new happens.<br>
> > > > Juxtapose<br>
> > > > us<br>
> > > > and there is possibility. For fire.<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > Which raises for me the question of why do people try to
keep<br>
> > > > others<br>
> > > > in<br>
> > > > tightly sealed containers, such as "do me"
audiences who are not<br>
> > > > allowed<br>
> > > > to talk back, let alone with each other? Is it lack of<br>
> > > > experience<br>
> > > > with<br>
> > > > any container where people can let their lights shine on
each<br>
> > > > other?<br>
> > > > Is<br>
> > > > it fear of the fire? Something else?<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > Ever notice that after a play or a good seminar, when we go
home<br>
> > > > we<br>
> > > > want<br>
> > > > to talk about it? We want to assimilate it, re-enjoy,
extend it.<br>
> > > > What if<br>
> > > > we could harness that energy at the event itself? Get the
people<br>
> > > > there<br>
> > > > to assimilate, re-enjoy and especially extend it, starting
right<br>
> > > > there?<br>
> > > > What if?<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > Is this what OS is?<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > :- Doug. Germann<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
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