<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Justin,<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I think Chris Corrigan has proposed a great model. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Chris Weaver knows of a voting model of which the name is failing to come to mind, using your five fingers to vote on a scale of 5 fingers being strong support, and a closed hand meaning opposition - I think. You would obviously need to talk with him about the specifics. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Another resource is Tom Atlee's book, The Tao of Democracy - <A href="http://www.taoofdemocracy.com">http://www.taoofdemocracy.com</A>/ . Tom has created an excellent book about the myriad ways people are practicing democracy ~ a great read!</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV>with grace and love,</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style="font-size: 12px; "><B style="font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold; ">Zelle</SPAN></SPAN></B></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Zelle Nelson</DIV><DIV>Know Place Like Home/Engaging the Soul@Work/State of Grace Document</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#008000"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0); "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0); ">www.knowplacelikehome.com</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000080"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); ">www.engagingthesoulatwork.com</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#004080"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 64, 128); "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 64, 128); ">www.stateofgracedocument.com</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><B style="font-weight: bold; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#008000"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0); font-weight: bold; "><A href="mailto:zelle@knowplacelikehome.com">zelle@knowplacelikehome.com</A></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></B></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>work/home:<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>(001) 828.693.0802</DIV><DIV>mobile:<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>(001) 847.951.7030</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Isle of Skye</DIV><DIV>2021 Greenville Hwy</DIV><DIV>Flat Rock, NC 28731</DIV><DIV>USA</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Nov 10, 2006, at 2:48 AM, Justin T. Sampson wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Howdy,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I'm planning to use Open Space for a small meeting on Saturday. I</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">described the context a while ago and got some great advice on</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">using OST for small groups. Some major points I remember are to</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">(1) trust the group and (2) get rid of the tables. :)</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I have a more specific question now, pertaining to how the</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">organization operates formally. This meeting is the monthly</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">meeting of a local (city-wide) political party, usually a friendly</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">but somewhat dull Robert's Rules style (I serve as chair). The</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">main purpose of these meetings, in my mind at least, is to bring</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">together activists to talk about local issues and get ideas and</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">support for various projects, which OST is perfect for.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">However, another important function of the meetings is to make</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">formal decisions as an organization, such as passing resolutions,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">electing officers, or approving budgets. For these things we are</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">required by our bylaws to take a vote of the members present. Do</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">any of you have stories or ideas to share about effectively</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">calling for a formal vote on some proposal in the midst of Open</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Space festivities? Should I just schedule an abbreviated Robert's</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">meeting after or before the Open Space portion of the meeting, or</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">can I safely hold a Robert's meeting as just another Open Space</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">session?</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">The whole meeting is very short, 2-3 hours. We would likely have</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">only a couple, if any, formal motions to consider. But I want to</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">make sure I have some answer when it comes up!</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Cheers,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Justin</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">*</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">*</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">==========================================================</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">------------------------------</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">view the archives of <A href="mailto:oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu">oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu</A>:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html">http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist">http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist</A></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>*
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