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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Steve, thank you for your
question… What would the risks be if we opened space and it wasn’t certain to
be safe? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Do any of you have
experiences which didn’t turn out to be safe – and what happened next in the
organization? Do you follow up and ask what happened in your client’s
organization, e.g. half a year later?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I hear some people saying
they had one experience in Open Space which wasn’t well embedded in the
organization and then got frustrated and decided they would never go for it
again. This of course is the worst case and bad publicity for our passion, Open
Space…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Please share your bad
experiences, we can all learn tremendously from them.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Steve Woodall
[mailto:steveoftulsa@cox.net] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag, 2. November
2006 14:57<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: Proximity and Open
Space after presentations</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hope you don't mind a lurker chiming in here. As a guy who has been
(and is) in a couple of those organizations Tennyson mentions....and
struggles with finding a way to open the space, I'd hope that when you get a
call from me, or another explorer, you'll be open to going in there and doing
what you can. Most organizations have some folk who want to move toward better
space; sometimes they're fortunate enough to be in a space where they can
assert a little leadership to start down that path. But it is a dimly lit path
and many of their colleagues will discourage them. Those who've been down it
must come back and light the way, offering guidance and reassurance to the
newbies. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Seems like we have to fight the desire to only open space when we're
sure it's safe?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Steve Woodall<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><a href="http://www.cherokee.org">www.cherokee.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'><a href="mailto:steve-woodall@cherokee.org">steve-woodall@cherokee.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:76066.515@compuserve.com" title="76066.515@compuserve.com">douglas
germann</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU"
title="OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Wednesday,
November 01, 2006 9:32 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: Proximity and
Open Space after presentations<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Zelle--<br>
<br>
Fantastic! That was just the sort of low-down I wanted. Now I have a<br>
good idea what you mean. <br>
<br>
It is a wonderful way to open some space for people who often find it<br>
closed by the "do-me" meetings so prevalent in our society. You are
to<br>
be congratulated for being innovative in opening these spaces.<br>
<br>
Which brings me to something you told me off-line a few months ago,<br>
something I think others might be interested in conversing around out<br>
here in the open spaces (if you are willing): how you view opening space<br>
in corporations and hierarchical organizations and similar settings<br>
which seem to me to prefer closed spaces and control. Why spend your<br>
time and energy trying to convince people against their natural<br>
inclinations? Is it not an uphill battle, and would it not be better to<br>
work where the seed could fall on more fertile soil?<br>
<br>
:- Doug.<br>
<br>
On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 19:15 -0500, Zelle Nelson wrote:<br>
> Hi Doug, Chris, Herman, et al.,<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Chris mentioned the speaker setting the right tone. One way we<br>
> accomplish this <br>
> is to have the speaker talk from a circle of chairs, not to theater<br>
> style seating (this <br>
> also makes for a very efficient, and immediate transition to OS). see<br>
> the graphic <br>
> down the right side of the page at:<br>
> <a href="http://engagingthesoulatwork.com/engagingthesoul.htm">http://engagingthesoulatwork.com/engagingthesoul.htm</a><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> The invitation is "What thoughts, ideas, actions have been sparked by<br>
> this <br>
> speech? What did you learn and what do you want to take away from this<br>
> speech <br>
> going forward?"<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> One OS event after a speaker I posted on the <st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>
was after a<br>
> political <br>
> candidate:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Out of an short (3 hour) OS following a speech given by presidential<br>
> hopeful Col. <br>
> Robert Bowman in the summer of 2004, the Kindness Campaign - <br>
> <a href="http://www.thekindnesscampaign.org">www.thekindnesscampaign.org</a>
was created and has been sustained to the <br>
> present in Asheville, NC. There were 50? participants. We did 15 min<br>
> action at the <br>
> end after a 20 min closing circle. I believe the speech was 45 min and<br>
> that would <br>
> make the OS 2.25 hours. The whole event was maybe 4 hours one evening.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> These were the topics, and action round topics:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Topic 1:
Electing Progressive Representatives<br>
>
Convener:
Clyde Michael Morgan<br>
> <br>
> Topic 2:
The Current Extinction Crisis<br>
>
Convener:
Greg Wilcox<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Topic 3:
The People of the World are with Us – We are the<br>
> Majority – How do we Spread the Word?<br>
> <br>
>
Convener:
Robin<br>
> <br>
> Topic 4:
How can we help the under 30 crowd and other<br>
> citizens feel empowered enough to get involved in the political<br>
> process?<br>
> <br>
>
Convener:
Cathy S.<br>
> <br>
> Topic 5:
Local Power Over Economy<br>
>
Convener:
Kevin <br>
> <br>
> Topic 5:
Peace Dividend<br>
>
Convener:
Brad Dienst<br>
> <br>
> Topic 6:
Explore ways to identify and speak about the<br>
> fundamental truths about which our government is
doing. <br>
> <br>
> <br>
>
Convener:
Hugh Huntington<br>
> <br>
> Topic 7:
Patriot Act – How to get our freedom back<br>
>
Convener:
Pamela<br>
> <br>
> Topic 8:
Unifying Global Resistance<br>
>
Convener:
Mark<br>
> <br>
> Topic 9:
Bringing Heart, Soul, Creativity, and Bliss to<br>
> Politics<br>
>
Convener:
Daniel<br>
> <br>
> Topic
10:
Leadership Training<br>
> Convener:
Rich Livernois<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Action Notes:<br>
> <br>
> Topic A:
Who wants to be in a network of people accepting<br>
> REAL money, not Federal Reserve Notes<br>
> <br>
>
Convener:
Kevin<br>
> <br>
> Topic B:
How to start a kindness campaign in Asheville<br>
>
Convener:
Barry Weinhold<br>
> <br>
> Topic C:
Let’s Stay in touch with a Yahoo group or<br>
> something similar. Let’s work together<br>
> <br>
>
Convener:
Clyde Michale Morsan<br>
> <br>
> Topic D:
Institutionalizing Change: Department of Peace;<br>
> Ombudsman, Reform<br>
> <br>
>
Convener:
Grant Miller<br>
> <br>
> Topic E:
Finding ways to speak the truth about our<br>
> government<br>
>
Convener:
Hue<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> We just did 1/2 day World Cafe; 1.5 days of OS interspersed with<br>
> presentations ~ <br>
> 1-2 presentations, followed by 3 hours of OS; 1-2 presentations<br>
> followed by 3 <br>
> hours of OS; 1-2 presentations, followed by 3 hours of OS; finishing<br>
> with a day of <br>
> action rounds. There were 80 people from bp. We've been asked to do<br>
> their next <br>
> meeting and in the "after action review" all the items the
planning<br>
> team wanted to <br>
> be covered were covered, plus a hairy elephant was talked about and<br>
> moved <br>
> towards resolution.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> However you look at it, when you open more space, people get what they<br>
> need. <br>
> All we do when we put together Open Space and a keynote speech or <br>
> presentation is combine the one-way learning phase of life with the<br>
> multi-input <br>
> way of learning way of life which is Open Space. The process is<br>
> happening all the <br>
> time, but not always one after the other, or moving in between the<br>
> two, and <br>
> sponsored by the same organization. We're just directly linking what<br>
> has been the <br>
> model for many years - one-way/single input learning and another way<br>
> to learn - <br>
> multi-input learning.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> You know in Open Space ~ fantastic results! <br>
> <br>
> with grace and love,<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Zelle<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Zelle Nelson<br>
> Know Place Like Home/Engaging the <a href="mailto:Soul@Work/State">Soul@Work/State</a>
of Grace Document<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <a href="http://www.knowplacelikehome.com">www.knowplacelikehome.com</a><br>
> <a href="http://www.engagingthesoulatwork.com">www.engagingthesoulatwork.com</a><br>
> <a href="http://www.stateofgracedocument.com">www.stateofgracedocument.com</a><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <a href="mailto:zelle@knowplacelikehome.com">zelle@knowplacelikehome.com</a><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> work/home: (001) 828.693.0802<br>
> mobile: (001) 847.951.7030<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Isle of Skye<br>
> 2021 Greenville Hwy<br>
> Flat Rock, NC 28731<br>
> USA<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Oct 26, 2006, at 10:24 PM, douglas germann wrote:<br>
> <br>
> > Zelle--<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Great picture you give.<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Can you say a little about what you mean by fantastic results?<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > I am even more curious about what the topics and invitations look<br>
> > like<br>
> > for those "3-hour following OSTs." This sounds truly
exciting. Can<br>
> > you<br>
> > put some more meat on those bones for us all?<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Thanks, Zelle! And say Hi to Maureen, too, for me. How is she doing?<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > :- Doug.<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > On Thu, 2006-10-26 at 11:50 -0400, Zelle Nelson wrote:<br>
> > > Hi Doug,<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Proximity: very elegant!<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Maureen and I have been offering and delivering Open Space after<br>
> > > keynote <br>
> > > speeches, after presentations in corporate meetings, after<br>
> > > political speeches - <br>
> > > anywhere we can open up space and allow everyone to be the
expert<br>
> > > or<br>
> > > at least <br>
> > > ask questions about what was a spark for them. It works
incredibly<br>
> > > well.<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Generally, we hold a 3 hour Open Space after keynote speeches.
In<br>
> > > terms of <br>
> > > presentations in corporate meetings, there will sometimes be<br>
> > > multiple <br>
> > > presentations in the mornings and then hold Open Space in the<br>
> > > afternoons. <br>
> > > We've had fantastic results!<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > with grace and love,<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Zelle<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Zelle Nelson<br>
> > > Know Place Like Home/Engaging the <a
href="mailto:Soul@Work/State">Soul@Work/State</a> of Grace<br>
> > > Document<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <a href="http://www.knowplacelikehome.com">www.knowplacelikehome.com</a><br>
> > > <a href="http://www.engagingthesoulatwork.com">www.engagingthesoulatwork.com</a><br>
> > > <a href="http://www.stateofgracedocument.com">www.stateofgracedocument.com</a><br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <a href="mailto:zelle@knowplacelikehome.com">zelle@knowplacelikehome.com</a><br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > work/home: (001) 828.693.0802<br>
> > > mobile: (001) 847.951.7030<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Isle of Skye<br>
> > > 2021 Greenville Hwy<br>
> > > Flat Rock, NC 28731<br>
> > > USA<br>
> > > <br>
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> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > On Oct 26, 2006, at 10:35 AM, douglas germann wrote:<br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > > Hi all--<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > Chris's Tao of Holding Space stopped me in my mental tracks
last<br>
> > > > night<br>
> > > > with one word: proximity.<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > What we are about in opening space is bringing people into<br>
> > > > proximity,<br>
> > > > yes?<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > Proximity: notice what can happen when we bring people who
care<br>
> > > > near<br>
> > > > each other. Ideas bounce and blend and reproduce. Passions<br>
> > > > infuse.<br>
> > > > Keep<br>
> > > > us in tightly sealed containers and nothing new happens.<br>
> > > > Juxtapose<br>
> > > > us<br>
> > > > and there is possibility. For fire.<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > Which raises for me the question of why do people try to
keep<br>
> > > > others<br>
> > > > in<br>
> > > > tightly sealed containers, such as "do me"
audiences who are not<br>
> > > > allowed<br>
> > > > to talk back, let alone with each other? Is it lack of<br>
> > > > experience<br>
> > > > with<br>
> > > > any container where people can let their lights shine on
each<br>
> > > > other?<br>
> > > > Is<br>
> > > > it fear of the fire? Something else?<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > Ever notice that after a play or a good seminar, when we go
home<br>
> > > > we<br>
> > > > want<br>
> > > > to talk about it? We want to assimilate it, re-enjoy,
extend it.<br>
> > > > What if<br>
> > > > we could harness that energy at the event itself? Get the
people<br>
> > > > there<br>
> > > > to assimilate, re-enjoy and especially extend it, starting
right<br>
> > > > there?<br>
> > > > What if?<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > Is this what OS is?<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > :- Doug. Germann<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <br>
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