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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=SpellE><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>How</span></font></span><font
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Could</span></font></span><font
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color:navy'> <span class=SpellE>we</span> do, <span class=SpellE>if</span> <span
class=SpellE>we</span> had put <span class=SpellE>our</span> <span
class=SpellE>energies</span> <span class=SpellE>into</span> it, a <span
class=SpellE>similar</span> size <span class=SpellE>and</span> popular OS <span
class=SpellE>event</span> in <span class=SpellE>some</span> <span class=SpellE>big</span>
<span class=SpellE>city</span>, <span class=SpellE>would</span> <span
class=SpellE>that</span> be <span class=SpellE>revolutionary</span>, <span
class=SpellE>evolutionary</span> <span class=SpellE>and</span> <span
class=SpellE>worth</span> <span class=SpellE>the</span> <span class=SpellE>effort</span>?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Playfully</span></font></span><font
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color:navy'>,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----<span class=SpellE>Original</span>
<span class=SpellE>Message</span>-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Funda Oral
[mailto:fundaoral@ttnet.net.tr] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, September 04, 2006
5:07 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: an interesting
meeting in Berlin]</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Harrison, i love you too,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Michael, i agree with you and with
Harrison,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>But, the show must go on!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I wish this meeting was an OS
meeting whether with or without experts.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Funda</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:
bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a href="mailto:hhowen@adelphia.net"
title="hhowen@adelphia.net">Harrison Owen</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU"
title="OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Monday,
September 04, 2006 3:44 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: an
interesting meeting in Berlin]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks to my increasing myopia
(doubtless due to sins past and present) I did in fact miss the URL. </span></font><font
size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial'>small print!</span></font><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> is the root of all evil!! But I
love you Funda!!!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>And Michael -- you captured my
feeling exactly when it come to events like this. Doubtless it will be a
marvelous show, but as an advance of real knowledge, and more importantly the
application of that knowledge, I rather think it will come up short. The "Expert
Syndrome" one more time. Old joke about the definition of
"expert" -- "a has been under pressure." Some truth there,
I think.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Harrison</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Harrison Owen<br>
7808 River Falls Dr.<br>
Potomac, MD 20854<br>
USA<br>
301-365-2093<br>
207-763-3261 (summer)<br>
website <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</a><br>
Personal Website <a href="http://www.ho-image.com">www.ho-image.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:
bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a href="mailto:mmpanne@boscop.de"
title="mmpanne@boscop.de">Michael M Pannwitz</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU"
title="OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Monday,
September 04, 2006 4:12 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> [Fwd: Re:
an interesting meeting in Berlin]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dear list,<br>
yesterday, I did send the note below to ho who had not discovered the <br>
link and entered my esteemed opinion on this project.<br>
Its in the local Berlin paper again today with a long report on how they <br>
are creating two setups, one indoor for rain and one outdoor for sunny <br>
weather...its quite a huge table coated with a very fancy and expensive <br>
material that can also be written on...they have already approached the <br>
Guinness Book of World Records for the largest round table ever...and I <br>
wouldnt be surprised if they cut it up in pieces and auction it off as <br>
they did with other local objects like the Berlin Wall....and, of <br>
course, there is going to be a video where you can see all of them <br>
simultaneously answering questions...<br>
<br>
To me this is a good example for the paradigm "Experts solve
Problems" <br>
(Taylor, Scientific management)which dominated the art between 1900 and <br>
1950, followed by a phase of "Everybody solves Problems" (Group
Problem <br>
Solving, Lewin etc.) which in recent years, under the influence of <br>
Systems Thinking, has been changing since 1965 into "Experts improve <br>
whole systems" and, more recently, with the development of approaches <br>
such as Open Space, Future Search, etc., into "Everybody improves whole <br>
systems".<br>
I dont think that an approach long shown to be useless for the <br>
challenges we are facing now improves through technology that makes it <br>
available instantaneously, worldwide...<br>
Still, its a fascinating show that definitely is marketed in an <br>
effective mode...<br>
So, for me its back to practicing Open Space Technology!<br>
Greetings from Berlin<br>
mmp<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-------- Original Message --------<br>
Subject: Re: an interesting meeting in Berlin<br>
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:18:25 +0200<br>
From: Michael M Pannwitz <<a href="mailto:mmpanne@boscop.de">mmpanne@boscop.de</a>><br>
To: Harrison Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>><br>
References: <<a href="mailto:00ec01c6cf96$7c0ba5e0$0201a8c0@fundao0ngpntt7">00ec01c6cf96$7c0ba5e0$0201a8c0@fundao0ngpntt7</a>>
<br>
<<a href="mailto:002601c6cfaa$86112ba0$b2f13018@holaptop">002601c6cfaa$86112ba0$b2f13018@holaptop</a>><br>
<br>
click on the link she supplied, its a little hard to see for old men like me<br>
it was in the local Berlin paper today and I consider it to be a<br>
fabulous piece of bullshit,<br>
especially since they definitely forgot to include THIS<br>
great mind<br>
Tables have been out for some time...<br>
Greetings from Berlin<br>
mmp<br>
<br>
Harrison Owen wrote:<br>
> OK Funda. You are indeed the "mystery woman." No more mysterious
than <br>
> now. . . What interesting meeting in Berlin????<br>
> <br>
> ho<br>
> Harrison Owen<br>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.<br>
> Potomac, MD 20854<br>
> USA<br>
> 301-365-2093<br>
> 207-763-3261 (summer)<br>
> website <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</a>
<<a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">http://www.openspaceworld.com</a>><br>
> Personal Website <a href="http://www.ho-image.com">www.ho-image.com</a>
<<a href="http://www.ho-image.com">http://www.ho-image.com</a>><br>
> <br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> *From:* Funda Oral <<a
href="mailto:fundaoral@ttnet.net.tr">mailto:fundaoral@ttnet.net.tr</a>><br>
> *To:* <a
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
> <<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>><br>
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 03, 2006 4:21 PM<br>
> *Subject:* an interesting meeting in Berlin<br>
> <br>
> <a href="http://www.droppingknowledge.org/">http://www.droppingknowledge.org/</a><br>
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