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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Harrison, i love you too,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Michael, i agree with you and with Harrison,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>But, the show must go on!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I wish this meeting was an OS meeting whether with or
without experts.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Funda</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=hhowen@adelphia.net href="mailto:hhowen@adelphia.net">Harrison
Owen</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 04, 2006 3:44
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: an interesting meeting in
Berlin]</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Thanks to my increasing myopia (doubtless due to sins
past and present) I did in fact miss the URL. <FONT size=1>small
print!</FONT><FONT size=3> is the root of all evil!! But I love you
Funda!!!</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>And Michael -- you captured my feeling exactly when it
come to events like this. Doubtless it will be a marvelous show, but as an
advance of real knowledge, and more importantly the application of that
knowledge, I rather think it will come up short. The "Expert Syndrome" one
more time. Old joke about the definition of "expert" -- "a has been under
pressure." Some truth there, I think.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Harrison</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Harrison Owen<BR>7808 River Falls Dr.<BR>Potomac, MD
20854<BR>USA<BR>301-365-2093<BR>207-763-3261 (summer)<BR>website <A
href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</A><BR>Personal
Website <A href="http://www.ho-image.com">www.ho-image.com</A><BR></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mmpanne@boscop.de href="mailto:mmpanne@boscop.de">Michael M
Pannwitz</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 04, 2006 4:12
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Fwd: Re: an interesting
meeting in Berlin]</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Dear list,<BR>yesterday, I did send the note below to ho who
had not discovered the <BR>link and entered my esteemed opinion on this
project.<BR>Its in the local Berlin paper again today with a long report on
how they <BR>are creating two setups, one indoor for rain and one outdoor
for sunny <BR>weather...its quite a huge table coated with a very fancy and
expensive <BR>material that can also be written on...they have already
approached the <BR>Guinness Book of World Records for the largest round
table ever...and I <BR>wouldnt be surprised if they cut it up in pieces and
auction it off as <BR>they did with other local objects like the Berlin
Wall....and, of <BR>course, there is going to be a video where you can see
all of them <BR>simultaneously answering questions...<BR><BR>To me this is a
good example for the paradigm "Experts solve Problems" <BR>(Taylor,
Scientific management)which dominated the art between 1900 and <BR>1950,
followed by a phase of "Everybody solves Problems" (Group Problem
<BR>Solving, Lewin etc.) which in recent years, under the influence of
<BR>Systems Thinking, has been changing since 1965 into "Experts improve
<BR>whole systems" and, more recently, with the development of approaches
<BR>such as Open Space, Future Search, etc., into "Everybody improves whole
<BR>systems".<BR>I dont think that an approach long shown to be useless for
the <BR>challenges we are facing now improves through technology that makes
it <BR>available instantaneously, worldwide...<BR>Still, its a fascinating
show that definitely is marketed in an <BR>effective mode...<BR>So, for me
its back to practicing Open Space Technology!<BR>Greetings from
Berlin<BR>mmp<BR><BR><BR><BR>-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject:
Re: an interesting meeting in Berlin<BR>Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:18:25
+0200<BR>From: Michael M Pannwitz <<A
href="mailto:mmpanne@boscop.de">mmpanne@boscop.de</A>><BR>To: Harrison
Owen <<A
href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</A>><BR>References:
<<A
href="mailto:00ec01c6cf96$7c0ba5e0$0201a8c0@fundao0ngpntt7">00ec01c6cf96$7c0ba5e0$0201a8c0@fundao0ngpntt7</A>>
<BR><<A
href="mailto:002601c6cfaa$86112ba0$b2f13018@holaptop">002601c6cfaa$86112ba0$b2f13018@holaptop</A>><BR><BR>click
on the link she supplied, its a little hard to see for old men like me<BR>it
was in the local Berlin paper today and I consider it to be a<BR>fabulous
piece of bullshit,<BR>especially since they definitely forgot to include
THIS<BR>great mind<BR>Tables have been out for some time...<BR>Greetings
from Berlin<BR>mmp<BR><BR>Harrison Owen wrote:<BR>> OK Funda. You are
indeed the "mystery woman." No more mysterious than <BR>> now. . . What
interesting meeting in Berlin????<BR>> <BR>> ho<BR>> Harrison
Owen<BR>> 7808 River Falls Dr.<BR>> Potomac, MD 20854<BR>>
USA<BR>> 301-365-2093<BR>> 207-763-3261 (summer)<BR>> website <A
href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</A> <<A
href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">http://www.openspaceworld.com</A>><BR>>
Personal Website <A href="http://www.ho-image.com">www.ho-image.com</A>
<<A
href="http://www.ho-image.com">http://www.ho-image.com</A>><BR>>
<BR>> ----- Original Message
-----<BR>> *From:* Funda Oral <<A
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*To:* <A
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<<A
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*Sent:* Sunday, September 03, 2006 4:21 PM<BR>>
*Subject:* an interesting meeting in Berlin<BR>>
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