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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=570520610-26082006><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080>yes, herman, what we like to capture, and sometimes succeed, is
energy. And you know it emmediately, and the group sees it immediately, if that
happens.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=570520610-26082006><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080>working with small cards is what we do in OS.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=570520610-26082006><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080>the starting vocabulary, mmmmh.... i am no friend of showing my
stile to others before they start drawing. we do it on templates, so they look
as if already someone has started and they can just continue, but there we
use very reduced shapes, people withoput faces ... no ,
i would not show examples of others.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=570520610-26082006><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080>what i propose is to shift the view to the technique of listening.
listening is maybe 80 % of our work. if someone really listens, he is out of the
mind space of "i cannot draw... ".or "i want to reach this result...."
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=570520610-26082006><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080>and the drawings can be VERY simple! there are british colleagues,
who work only in black and white , with figures like of a five year old child,
and it works!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=570520610-26082006><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080>Concerning 20 standard pictures - well i checked how often we
repeat a certain picture for the same (????) situation - and it was below 10 %.
You listen, see the person, feel him, can his words be trusted? you see the body
language, smell him, feel the context, and all that nearly never leeds to the
same image.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Verdana><FONT color=#000080><SPAN
class=570520610-26082006>the KuS-model</SPAN> <SPAN
class=570520610-26082006>- well, KuS is Kuchenmüller und Stifel. And the
ancestors of it are the medicine wheels, Angeles Arrien, Harrison Owen, Birgitt
Williams. you can see it in our website, right at the beginning, together with
some texts and images.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=570520610-26082006></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Verdana><FONT color=#000080><SPAN
class=570520610-26082006>it has seven steps, and can be used in many ways.
recently i used it for coaching a lady searching for a new professional
orientation. she drew, i drew, we used monologes, dialoges, interview, a
metaphorical sculpture, ...</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=570520610-26082006></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Verdana><FONT color=#000080><SPAN
class=570520610-26082006>Or i used it for a new orientation of the leaders of
Milano Metropoli and their organisation, where we went through the 7 steps in 2
days.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=570520610-26082006></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
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class=570520610-26082006></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Verdana><FONT
color=#000080>r<SPAN class=570520610-26082006>einhard</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=570520610-26082006></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>VISUELLE
PROTOKOLLE</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>Kuchenmüller &
Stifel</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>tel +39-0566-88
929</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080>www.visuelle-protokolle.de</FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>Von:</B> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B>Im Auftrag von </B>Michael
Herman<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Freitag, 25. August 2006 15:40<BR><B>An:</B>
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B>Betreff:</B> Re: AW: AW: Working with
visual artists at an Open Space<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>thank you, reinhard. what caught me in birgitt's last message
is twice, i think, saying about "capturing". this word is important to me,
because of the shape it describes. i thnk first in shapes and textures and
flows, and only later in pictures and finally words. but i'm always
working to make the words describe accurately the shapes that are my first
thoughts and experiences. so capture really fits for me, and lets me ask
"what is being captured" and for me that is some energy of the group.
<BR><BR>now when i read your list, thanks for that, the part i really like is
where you work with small cards, not the big sheets... you're in with people,
not removed... and you talk about asking for corrections and additions.
for me, it's easy to imagine that the energy "captured" in such pictures is not
stored up in some giant mural castle that any one individual participant would
have trouble adding to or changing. or deleting something... "this card is
not right" where with a big wall, they could not say "this does not fit."
so the small card capturing seems more accessible and change-able and ultimately
then own-able by the particpants.<BR><BR>i can imagine bringing some of these
materials, depending on circumstances and purposes and client views and such, to
make this sort of documentation table next to the table where text documenting
happens... one big place of capturing (though it flies a bit in the face of 'one
more thing to not do' which is a person favorite rule of mine, because i like to
travel light!) ...but if i did this, the materials are easy enough... and it
seems that there is one thing missing. it seems that you have a bit of
starting vocabulary, a foundational set of images, maybe? <BR><BR>your
felt marker sketches that you'd shared for the ost: user's non-guide for
instance, have in them some similarities, a scope, a scale, a technique.
once a dozen of these are up on the wall, one can more easily imagine using
similar, if more tentative and crude renditions of same, to capture other
things. one could imitate and eventually expand the alphabet you use, the
style of simple capturing. do you suppose that there is some set of 10-20
standard images that could be shared with the materials, maybe examples of
several different 'alphabets' that you use, that would make these languages
accessible to those who would dare to sketch or paint something? i'm
intrigued by your mention of foundational images... or maybe i've
misunderstood? if nothing else, how do we learn more about KuS 7-step
process?<BR><BR>michael<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 8/25/06, <B class=gmail_sendername>Visuelle
Protokolle</B> <<A
href="mailto:mail@visuelle-protokolle.de">mail@visuelle-protokolle.de</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>insider,
outsider, addendum, we can play with definitions ad infinitum. important for
me, and i feel likewise for you, is not a role we play, but the reponsibility
we feel to be there for the people. To do, to be what fits, as you
say. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>If i see, that
i can be of help for someone, i always jump. i don't care then for
selforganization, i simply go. or draw. For me it is fine, that you and
me are different.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>For me Open
Space has some rules, which are made by humans, good ones, but i don't
feel responsible for these rules. As i understood, Harrison when he definded
those rules was influenced by visiting african tribes organizing big
festivals without organizing. If he had been visiting westafrican tribes with
an old tradition of documenting their meeting in drawings (what i would always
prefer to the external visual person!!!), maybe he would have defined that as
principle number five, or he might have seen them dancing at the end and could
have defined a law of two feet dancing.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>I like of
course, what Birgitt is writing in her parallel mail. So i am glad, that we
had this dialogue, and am open to continue it ore leave it like that, because
the important things have been said. I would rather draw what i feel, but this
listserve is textbased.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>You ask, how we
work. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>A. We accompany
meetings and conferences and seminars of all kind and mirror them in drawings.
we work with little formats, not like most of our American colleagues, who
work on big wallpapers. So we can sit inbeteen the people and hear, see, feel
what is going on. We use the 'Visual Language', a combination of images and
words. we work with feltpens on cards, which we hang in rows of 6 to form a
picture wall, where everybody can see, what was said, and also ask for
corrections and additions. At the end mostly we transform these images into a
slideshow of some minutes to let the day flow by, because almost everybody has
forgotten more than 50 % of what he heard, saw and did during a day.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>We would very
much like a visual culture, where this service is fulfilled by some people who
like that, and who got some training (mainly to forget their mind and prefixed
ideas of what they should draw). Inbetween we go and do
it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>B. We let
people draw themselves. Either on templates, which we prepare with the client,
and put an important question on it wich they answer with their drawings. We
do that in groups of 8, and follow some rules which make people forget that
they cannot draw. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>Or we have
"Storypainting sessions", were we split the group in story inventors, story
drawers, a witness, and to show the result (a long strip of images with added
sentences) a person like a medieval ballad-monger.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>Or we let
people draw their company, group ...as a human person on a flip chart in
little groups.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>Or we develop
maps together, land- and seamaps, full of metaphors and dragons
...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>C. We prepare
sessions, conferences etc. with metaphorical maps, after gathering the content
in interviews we document in drawings. That can take some months.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>We develop
gaims for companies, where the coworkers understand their company and the
ideas of their bosses while they play.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>E. We offer
coaching with images (where we and the coached person draw, and were we use
our KuS-Model with 7 process steps). We offer introduction into visual
facilitation in workshops.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>All this is
what we produce, and i don't go into what background we have, how we always
develop our services further, what images make with people, what we touch
within people, how we help to sustain etc,....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>For Open Space
it would be beautiful to always have paper and colors available, flipchartsize
or bigger. Colors might be broad (!!!) felt pens, chalk, crayons (careful with
carpet floors), water colors. Yes, a person to introduce and help is helpful,
but not necessary. But you must show the possibilities of using these
materials as something normal.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>And maybe you
experiment with people documenting with drawings, on big or small
paper!!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>The drawing
should not be the theme, but a byproduct. That is one reason i don't call me
an artist. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>And if you
ever find a client who asks for a visual person, there are beautiful
people all over the place. You can look in the website of IFVP, our
international organisation.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Verdana
color=#000080><SPAN>Reinhard</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>VISUELLE
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