thank you, reinhard. what caught me in birgitt's last message is
twice, i think, saying about "capturing". this word is important
to me, because of the shape it describes. i thnk first in shapes
and textures and flows, and only later in pictures and finally
words. but i'm always working to make the words describe
accurately the shapes that are my first thoughts and experiences.
so capture really fits for me, and lets me ask "what is being captured"
and for me that is some energy of the group. <br>
<br>
now when i read your list, thanks for that, the part i really like is
where you work with small cards, not the big sheets... you're in with
people, not removed... and you talk about asking for corrections and
additions. for me, it's easy to imagine that the energy
"captured" in such pictures is not stored up in some giant mural castle
that any one individual participant would have trouble adding to or
changing. or deleting something... "this card is not right" where
with a big wall, they could not say "this does not fit." so the
small card capturing seems more accessible and change-able and
ultimately then own-able by the particpants.<br>
<br>
i can imagine bringing some of these materials, depending on
circumstances and purposes and client views and such, to make this sort
of documentation table next to the table where text documenting
happens... one big place of capturing (though it flies a bit in the
face of 'one more thing to not do' which is a person favorite rule of
mine, because i like to travel light!) ...but if i did this, the
materials are easy enough... and it seems that there is one thing
missing. it seems that you have a bit of starting vocabulary, a
foundational set of images, maybe? <br>
<br>
your felt marker sketches that you'd shared for the ost: user's
non-guide for instance, have in them some similarities, a scope, a
scale, a technique. once a dozen of these are up on the wall, one
can more easily imagine using similar, if more tentative and crude
renditions of same, to capture other things. one could imitate
and eventually expand the alphabet you use, the style of simple
capturing. do you suppose that there is some set of 10-20
standard images that could be shared with the materials, maybe examples
of several different 'alphabets' that you use, that would make these
languages accessible to those who would dare to sketch or paint
something? i'm intrigued by your mention of foundational
images... or maybe i've misunderstood? if nothing else, how do we
learn more about KuS 7-step process?<br>
<br>
michael<br>
<br>
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<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/25/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Visuelle Protokolle</b> <<a href="mailto:mail@visuelle-protokolle.de">mail@visuelle-protokolle.de</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana">insider, outsider, addendum, we can play with definitions ad
infinitum. important for me, and i feel likewise for you, is not a role we play,
but the reponsibility we feel to be there for the people. To do, to be what
fits, as you say. </font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana"></font></span> </div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana">If i see, that i can be of help for someone, i always jump. i
don't care then for selforganization, i simply go. or draw. For me it is fine,
that you and me are different.</font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span></span> </div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana">For me Open Space has some rules, which are made by humans,
good ones, but i don't feel responsible for these rules. As i understood,
Harrison when he definded those rules was influenced by visiting african
tribes organizing big festivals without organizing. If he had been visiting
westafrican tribes with an old tradition of documenting their meeting in
drawings (what i would always prefer to the external visual person!!!), maybe he
would have defined that as principle number five, or he might have seen them
dancing at the end and could have defined a law of two feet
dancing.</font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana"></font></span> </div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana">I like of course, what Birgitt is writing in her parallel mail. So
i am glad, that we had this dialogue, and am open to continue it ore leave it
like that, because the important things have been said. I would rather draw what
i feel, but this listserve is textbased.</font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana"></font></span> </div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana">You ask, how we work. </font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana"></font></span> </div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana">A. We accompany meetings and conferences and seminars of all kind
and mirror them in drawings. we work with little formats, not like most of our
American colleagues, who work on big wallpapers. So we can sit inbeteen the
people and hear, see, feel what is going on. We use the 'Visual Language', a
combination of images and words. we work with feltpens on cards, which we hang
in rows of 6 to form a picture wall, where everybody can see, what was said, and
also ask for corrections and additions. At the end mostly we transform these
images into a slideshow of some minutes to let the day flow by, because almost
everybody has forgotten more than 50 % of what he heard, saw and did during a
day. </font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana"></font></span> </div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana">We would very much like a visual culture, where this service is
fulfilled by some people who like that, and who got some training (mainly to
forget their mind and prefixed ideas of what they should draw). Inbetween we go
and do it.</font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana"></font></span> </div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana">B. We let people draw themselves. Either on templates, which
we prepare with the client, and put an important question on it wich they answer
with their drawings. We do that in groups of 8, and follow some rules which make
people forget that they cannot draw. </font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana">Or we have "Storypainting sessions", were we split the group in
story inventors, story drawers, a witness, and to show the result (a long strip
of images with added sentences) a person like a medieval
ballad-monger. </font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana">Or we let people draw their company, group ...as a human person on
a flip chart in little groups.</font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana">Or we develop maps together, land- and seamaps, full of metaphors
and dragons ...</font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana"></font></span> </div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana">C. We prepare sessions, conferences etc. with metaphorical maps,
after gathering the content in interviews we document in drawings. That can take
some months. </font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana"></font></span> </div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana">We develop gaims for companies, where the coworkers understand
their company and the ideas of their bosses while they play.</font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana"></font></span> </div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana">E. We offer coaching with images (where we and the coached person
draw, and were we use our KuS-Model with 7 process steps). We offer introduction
into visual facilitation in workshops.</font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana"></font></span> </div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana">All this is what we produce, and i don't go into what background
we have, how we always develop our services further, what images make with
people, what we touch within people, how we help to sustain
etc,....</font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana"></font></span> </div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana">For Open Space it would be beautiful to always have paper and
colors available, flipchartsize or bigger. Colors might be broad (!!!) felt
pens, chalk, crayons (careful with carpet floors), water colors. Yes, a person
to introduce and help is helpful, but not necessary. But you must show the
possibilities of using these materials as something normal.</font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana"></font></span> </div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana">And maybe you experiment with people documenting with drawings, on
big or small paper!!!</font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana"></font></span> </div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana">The drawing should not be the theme, but a byproduct. That is one
reason i don't call me an artist. </font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana"></font></span> </div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana">And if you ever find a client who asks for a visual person,
there are beautiful people all over the place. You can look in the website of
IFVP, our international organisation.</font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana"></font></span> </div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#000080" face="Verdana"></font></span> </div>
<div align="left"><font color="#000080" face="Verdana"><span>Reinhard</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font color="#000080" face="Verdana"></font> </div>
<div align="left"><font color="#000080" face="Verdana">VISUELLE
PROTOKOLLE</font></div>
<div align="left"><font color="#000080" face="Verdana">Kuchenmüller &
Stifel</font></div></div><div><span class="q">
<div align="left"><font color="#000080" face="Verdana"></font> <br>
</div></span></div></div></blockquote></div><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><br>Michael Herman<br>Michael Herman Associates<br>300 West North Ave #1105<br>Chicago IL 60610 USA<br>Phone: 312-280-7838<br><a href="mailto:michael@michaelherman.com">
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