<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Justin -- There are obviously places in this world for
therapists and coaches, and the good ones can be extrodinarily helpful at
particular moments in our lives. I am not sure that Jim Rush considers himself
to be either, but it seems to me that the role he has set for himself falls
somewhere under either or both of these models. I think that the
function of Open Space is perhaps different and certainly broader, although a
number of people (myself included) have found Open Space to be very powerful
therapy, and for sure I find myself coached by masters in every Open Space, even
if they never thought of themselves as "coaches." I have also heard it said
among my coach and therapist friends that they are at their
best when they do the least -- and best of all when it seems that
they do nothing but open some doors and windows (space) so that the
client/patient can do "it" all themselves.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Harrison</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Harrison Owen<BR>7808 River Falls Dr.<BR>Potomac, MD
20854<BR>USA<BR>301-365-2093<BR>207-763-3261 (summer)<BR>website <A
href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</A><BR>Personal
Website <A href="http://www.ho-image.com">www.ho-image.com</A><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=justin@krasama.com href="mailto:justin@krasama.com">Justin T.
Sampson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:18
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: advanced butterfly</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Harrison Owen wrote:<BR><BR>> I suppose where I may take
some issue with both Reinhard and<BR>> Josef concerns the need to provide
additional services,<BR>> methods, techniques (in the Open Space
environment) in order to<BR>> facilitate the emergence of whole people.
Part of the<BR>> difficulty is that when such "services" are provided the
people<BR>> (participants) tend to see their emergence as whole people
as<BR>> the product of that service -- and not be fully aware that in
a<BR>> very real sense they did it all by themselves, and further
that<BR>> they are ultimately responsible for their own emergence. I
am<BR>> sure that neither Reinhard nor Josef would fall into what I<BR>>
might call the "Do-Me syndrome" -- in which people come to some<BR>>
gathering or event and expect to be "done-to" by the "experts."<BR>> But
that happens, and I see no value added, only the<BR>> continuation of a
destructive dependency on "The Experts."<BR><BR>Similarly, Michael Herman
wrote in another thread:<BR><BR>> i'm not interested in bringing others in
to do things that we<BR>> think participants can't do for themselves. i
want to invite<BR>> participants to do it *all* for themselves. that, to
me, is<BR>> what open space is for... discovering that we can do it
for<BR>> ourselves... that we have the bullet points, the artful
sketch,<BR>> the passion, the responsiblity, the vision and the
action<BR>> within each and all of us.<BR><BR>These comments are very
interesting to me. As a new learner in the<BR>group process arena, trying to
feel out the root wisdom of the<BR>various process gurus, I find myself drawn
most strongly at once<BR>both to Open Space Technology and to Dynamic
Facilitation (a la<BR>Jim Rough), which is very different in this sense. That
is, DF<BR>relies heavily on a facilitator actively drawing out
and<BR>reflecting each participant's feelings and ideas. Both
approaches<BR>start a meeting with no agenda, and both have some notion
(maybe<BR>not the same one?) of self-organization as a
fundamental<BR>principle, following the energy of the group as it moves
and<BR>evolves.<BR><BR>As a shy/quiet person myself, I really like the idea of
having a<BR>facilitator present to effectively hold the space open for
me<BR>right then and there when I have some thoughts to get out.<BR>Otherwise
the thoughts might just fester and keep me distracted<BR>while I try in vain
to find the right/safe time to jump in. On the<BR>other hand, the times when
I've felt this need most intensely have<BR>been not in Open Space, but in work
or personal settings in the<BR>presence of some kind of dominance relationship
(such as a<BR>manager/boss).<BR><BR>Come to think of it, I also felt this need
in the NCDD workshops<BR>where there was a presenter with some structure for
the workshop,<BR>but not in the sessions of the brief Open Space. Do you all
find<BR>that to be the case, that the simple fact of
convening<BR>spontaneously in Open Space makes a more active facilitator
less<BR>necessary? Do you still see circumstances where you'd prefer
or<BR>recommend a small-group meeting with a more active facilitator<BR>over a
larger-group Open Space event?<BR><BR>As another angle, actually the most
affecting and inspiring thing<BR>for me at NCDD was the Playback Theatre
showcase session. After a<BR>day of intellectually interesting but otherwise
somewhat stale and<BR>disconnected sessions, Playback snapped me right back
into<BR>presence and connection both with the actors and the other<BR>audience
members in a very powerful way. Playback could be seen as<BR>being another
"active facilitator" process -- the actors stand<BR>before the audience to
draw out and reflect their feelings and<BR>stories and ideas through
improvisational acting. How do you all<BR>see this relating to the issues
above? In a perfect Open Space<BR>event, how might a Playback Theatre session
take
place?<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Justin<BR><BR>*<BR>*<BR>==========================================================<BR><A
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A><BR>------------------------------<BR>To
subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options,<BR>view the archives of <A
href="mailto:oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu">oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu</A>:<BR><A
href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html">http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</A><BR><BR>To
learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:<BR><A
href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist">http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
*
*
==========================================================
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
------------------------------
To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options,
view the archives of oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu:
http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:
http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist