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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Peggy -- Just fly! Sometimes we need a perch to fly from
-- but no matter. It is all about flight. It is kind of like good education.
Always start from where the student is. Where you reach to is the question. So
my vision for (in) Open Space is that we all fly together. Sometimes Bumble
Bees, who are rather more directed -- and sometimes Butterflies, who go
wherever. Neither one is "right or wrong" -- just appropriate to the occasion.
Go for it!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Harrison</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Harrison Owen<BR>7808 River Falls Dr.<BR>Potomac, MD
20854<BR>USA<BR>301-365-2093<BR>207-763-3261 (summer)<BR>website <A
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<DIV
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<A title=peggy@opencirclecompany.com
href="mailto:peggy@opencirclecompany.com">Peggy Holman</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 15, 2006 6:06
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Advanced Butterfly
Behavior</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>There is something I'm trying to get at
and still grappling with how to say it. It has something to do with what
you said, Harrison:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>> Actually I would see "butterfly-ness" as the
essence of Open Space and all the rest as </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>> a practical accommodation to the needs
of some (many) people for a specific time, place, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>> and topic. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>Here's another attempt:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>Since we are always in Open
Space, posting sessions becomes one specialized form that allows me to
find people interested in a topic that I want to explore. As Tree was
saying about her NCDD experience (mine too, BTW), the</FONT><FONT
face="Comic Sans MS" size=2> more time I spend in OS, the more I find
that I'm drawn to people, relationships as much or more than topics or
ideas. In fact, the last time I opened space, rather than focusing on
the posting of topics as the primary activity, I framed it in the context
of the larger Open Space in which we live. Sometimes we follow our noses
to where the energy is, sometimes we are moved to meet with specific people,
to deepen a relationship, and sometimes, we have an idea and want to explore
it with others - hence the bulletin board.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>Something I saw happen in the later
years of Spirited Work was fewer topics on the walls and more conversations
that just sprang up because we were hanging out with people we loved (whether
we knew them or now). It was as if the foreground and background shifted
- being together for whatever emerged became the norm, posting sessions
happened when some specific topic had juice.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>This is slightly different from my
butterfly question, but in the same family.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>(BTW, a bit more the the story on the
"culturally mature" session...nothing particularly useful happened that
evening. It did however, lead to a posting in which any and all who
cared to participate came to a session in which they experienced his
process. That session was quite meaty. I don't know for sure,
but suspect the public session would likely not have happened had
that first whispered session not taken place.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>still wondering,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>Peggy</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<A title=mark.r.jones@sunyata.ws href="mailto:mark.r.jones@sunyata.ws">Mark
R. Jones</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:00
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OSLIST] Advanced
Butterfly Behavior</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">Hi H (Harrison) and Peggy.<BR><BR>Hmmmmmmmmmm . .
.<BR><BR>There is an element here for me that is implied in Peggy's<BR>piece
and your response to it that I would like to explore . . .<BR><BR>The
"butterfly" phenomena in OST has been widely acknowledged<BR>by you and
others. As a dedicated "butterfly" myself, I find<BR>that I do have
some reflections on the topic that Peggy has raised.<BR><BR>In my
"butterfly-ness", I assemble, attract, and/or am attracted<BR>to people with
which I typically have very intense, personal, and<BR>private conversations
with. These conversations occur in both 1:1<BR>and group forms. H,
over the years, you and I have had these types <BR>of interactions with each
other -- in the midst of OS events.<BR><BR>In my "butterfly-ness", I discern
who I want to be in conversation <BR>with -- The Law of Two Feet --
and then act upon that discernment. <BR>As you know H, I rarely actually
attend "called" (posted) sessions.<BR><BR>Yet, I feel welcome to play in
Open Space -- not negatively judged <BR>for my discernment -- my exercise of
The Law of Two Feet.<BR><BR>In my "butterfly-ness", I learn to hear, see,
and love other people.<BR>And perhaps others learn to hear, see, and love me
and each other.<BR>I acquire and refine insights and discover connections.
<BR><BR>Unfortunately, I rarely document my learnings within the
formal <BR>mechanisms of OST. And my "public" sharings do not contain
the <BR>richness of the private details that I have discovered.<BR><BR>Yet,
I feel that there is some common good that comes of it.<BR>Some mutual sense
of interconnection, compassion, and understanding<BR>is established.
Some of the insights are returned to the public<BR>forum. And,
interpersonal relationships are established and/or<BR>reinforced.<BR><BR>AND
--- All of this occurs "outside" of the formal process and form<BR>of OST.
"Butterfly-ness" is acknowledged by the process, and held <BR>by the
form of OST. But it is not the practice-normed form of OST<BR>which is
essentially -- gatherings around publicly advertised topics <BR>and
conveners in specific places at specific times.<BR><BR>If in the two
examples that Peggy gave, the participants had simply<BR>"butterflyed" their
intention to meet together -- there would have <BR>been no public
declaration and no public outrage and judgment, and<BR>possibly no public
sharing. The "sessions" would have occurred outside<BR>of the formal
process and form of OST. <BR><BR>But I suspect that the session
participants chose to try to in some way <BR>to "honor" the formal process
and form of OST by attempting to use some <BR>of the OST mechanisms of
"public" declaration. This partial revelation <BR>of intent created a
public stir regarding what was in all likelihood <BR>a space in which very
personal and private conversations could occur.<BR><BR><BR>Peggy's inquiry
provokes me to ponder: <BR> * What ways does and can the formal process
and form of OST more deeply<BR> embrace and benefit from
"butterfly-ness"?<BR> * Does the formal process and form of OST
fundamentally reject "private"<BR> conversation and its
manifestation in some forms of "butterfly-ness"?<BR> * Is the
manifestation of some forms of "butterfly-ness" as
"private"<BR> conversation a perversion of OST?<BR> *
Is acting upon "The Law of Two Feet" as a means of
interpersonal<BR> relationship discernment a perversion of
OST?<BR> * In the cultural norms of OST, am I required to give up my
practice<BR> of choosing who I want to interact
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<B>From: </B>Harrison Owen <hhowen@adelphia.net><BR><B>Reply-To:
</B>Harrison Owen <hhowen@verizon.net><BR><B>Date: </B>Tue, 15 Aug
2006 08:13:27 -0400<BR><B>To:
</B><OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU><BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Advanced
Butterfly Behavior<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><FONT
face=Arial>I am not sure that I would see such occurrences as "advanced
butterfly behavior. Narrow minded and shortsighted come to mind. Folks will
do what they will do -- and whatever happens is the only thing that could
have. . . but I really think that the conveners of such groups are
short-changing themselves and all those who come to the session (and maybe
all those who don't, as well). By arbitrarily restricting the diversity of
the group the potential for new and deeper thought/experience is radically
reduced. I must also confess to a certain abhorrence to terms like
"culturally mature" -- and even more with those who think they could make
such a determination. I am reminded of the situation at the recent OS for
Imams and Rabbis. As it happened there were several young students present
including a delightful 19 year old lady from Indonesia. On the face of it, I
doubt she would have made anybody's list as "culturally mature." And given
her natural modesty I am sure that she would never have made the association
for herself. But the fact of the matter is that her natural charm,
intelligence and curiosity made her in my eyes (and for others as well) one
of the real stars of the gathering. If nothing else, she was willing to ask
questions that everybody else was assiduously avoiding. Would I do anything
to stop such segregated gatherings? No -- but I guess I would hope that part
of the learning curve for the Culturally Mature was coming to see that there
are really better ways than hiding out in a room, talking to each
other.<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR> <BR></FONT><FONT
face=Arial>Harrison<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR> <BR> <BR>Harrison
Owen<BR>7808 River Falls Dr.<BR>Potomac, MD
20854<BR>USA<BR>301-365-2093<BR>207-763-3261 (summer)<BR>website
www.openspaceworld.com <A
href="http://www.openspaceworld.com"><http://www.openspaceworld.com></A>
<BR>Personal Website www.ho-image.com <A
href="http://www.ho-image.com"><http://www.ho-image.com></A>
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face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR>----- Original Message -----
<BR> <BR><B>From:</B> Peggy Holman <A
href="mailto:peggy@opencirclecompany.com"><mailto:peggy@opencirclecompany.com></A>
<BR> <BR><B>To:</B> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
<BR> <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 14, 2006 8:26
PM<BR> <BR><B>Subject:</B> Advanced Butterfly
Behavior<BR> <BR><BR> <BR></FONT><FONT
face="Comic Sans MS, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR><BR></FONT></SPAN><FONT
size=4><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">As I mentioned in my last e-mail, now that
I’m back after about a year away from the OS list, I’ve got a
variety of questions, stories and learnings to share over the next few
weeks. This question popped to the top of my
list.<BR></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR> <BR> <BR></SPAN><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px"><BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR></SPAN><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">There is a situation that I have now
experienced twice in long OS gatherings with many experienced OSers.
It is a dynamic that has an important and potentially dissonant
energy. I'm wondering if others have encountered this and what
their thoughts are on it. My suspicion is that we'll see more
of it as more people attend longer OS gatherings and generally
develop more experience with OS.<BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR></SPAN><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR></SPAN><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">My hunch is that this is a phenomenon that
deserves a name, much like bumblebees and
butterflies.<BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR></SPAN><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR></SPAN><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">So, with that preamble, here's the
description and two specific examples:<BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR></SPAN><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR></SPAN><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">There's a session that emerges from what is
happening in the mix. The convenor(s) have some very specific
people they wish to meet with and aren't interested in having it
open to whoever wanders in. It is similar to what happens when
butterflies meet but because there is more intentionality and
potentially larger numbers, it is its own
thing.<BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR></SPAN><FONT
size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR></SPAN><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">Two examples:<BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR></SPAN><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR></SPAN><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">At the April Evolutionary
Salon:<BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR></SPAN><FONT
size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">We had an expert in a process
who was willing to do a session but he felt that his work required a
targeted group (in his terms, the "culturally mature"). We
were interested in experiencing this and quietly put the word out to
the people we wanted in the room. When others also came, they
were welcomed.<BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR> <BR> <BR></SPAN><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">At the Practice of Peace in 2003 and in her
words:<BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR></SPAN><FONT
size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13px"><I>On the last day of the
conference, I woke up with a clarity of what I should do if I really
cared to take this rare, international opportunity one step further
into the future. I saw a session with specific people
(very engaged and personally interested, committed to the theme I
was passionate to explore, with very "concentrated energy" that I felt
was essential for a breakthrough in clarity and identifying what was
next.) <BR></I></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR></SPAN><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px"><BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR></SPAN><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">She was fine if others appeared but
did not wish to announce the session. She pulled the post-it
for the space from the time/space grid and then quietly put out the
word to the people she had in mind. Some of them came to the
session and others chose to go to other sessions. A few others
appeared during the session and were welcomed. She created a
session report an hour after the session was over. She had intended
to talk about the session and the experimentation during the closing
circle. (For a variety of unrelated reasons, that closing
circle never quite happened, so this became painful unfinished
business for her.)In both cases, there was some reflection by the
hosts after the OS completed. Some saw the sessions as fine,
appropriate butterfly behavior. Others were disturbed by the
lack of transparency, feeling that it was a drag on the energy
field.<BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR> <BR> <BR></SPAN><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">I am reflecting that as participants become
very mature, posting such sessions, complete with a mindful request
about who comes is an ideal for this; also VERY challenging to
do!<BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR></SPAN><FONT
size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"><BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR></SPAN><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">Thoughts?<BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR> <BR> <BR></SPAN><FONT size=4><SPAN
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