Once again, I have to weigh in and thank one of our masters, HO.
Yes, yes, yes, the butterfly is the essence of OS and any butterfly
behavior resides fully within this thing we call OS.<br>
<br>
More and more (lately I have felt completely out of control) I am
quite conscious of BEING a butterfly in each moment of my life. <br>
<br>
I recently attended the National Conference on Dialogue and
Deliberation. Today, in my mailbox, I was invited to give
feedback about the conference. To my puzzlement, I learned, in
the survey questions, that many people reported that this conference,
NCDD, was the best conference they had ever been to. For me, it
was a draining challenge to endure it: many wonderful people
(some of our own dear oslisters like Peggy and Lisa Heft!) offered
excellent breakout sessions. The plenary sessions were
thoughtfully and skillfully designed and, for the most part,
well-executed. The organizers wove art and beauty into our days
together. But I could not bring myself to go to any
sessions. And when I did force myself to stumble into one or two,
I felt bullied and bruised, although certainly no one was bullying
me. Certainly, I was free in every single moment of my experience
of this NCDD event to be a butterfly and, most definitely, I knew this.<br>
<br>
I got lucky at this particular conference. I had a best buddy who
also eschewed most of the formality of the event, although he had
slightly different reasons than me.<br>
<br>
Finally, after what seemed like an eternity to me, on the afternoon of
the second day, there was a ninety minute OS. All day on that second
day, I could feel the fresh air rising. By the time it finally
came to open the space (which was done by a fine OS newbie Matthew
Blom), I was feeling downright joyful and oxegenated. I was
giddy. I was happy. I felt at home. During the long
time it took for people to announce their sessions, I found myself
criss-crossing the ballroom, almost as if I were dancing: it felt
so good to finally have permission to do what I had been doing all
along. I didn't listen to any of the agenda topics because I
didn't need to: I knew I would continue to be a butterfly.<br>
<br>
My butterfly buddy said "You know, it is getting so if it isn't about
my work in the world, I am not really interested" and I said "If it
isn't in OS, I am not interested". . . and we had a fine, butterfly
time doing as we pleased. But it cost me: I want to be
respectful, kind and good. I want to receive the wisdom and
knowledge that was surely embedded in all of the fine workshops offered
at NCDD: but pre-set the schedule, put my opportunities to learn
into boxes and I am gone. What my friend was saying, I believe,
is that he is interested in following what has heart and meaning for
him, that it has taken him awhile to get to a place of clear
intentionality, to know who he is, to know what he wishes to do, who he
wishes to serve: once someone reaches such a point, they need to
become, I believe, butterflies.<br>
<br>
Did I have a great time at NCDD? Oh yes, yes, indeed.
Because I found the butterflies. . . or, perhaps, they found me.<br>
<br>
I guess there is a place in the world for conferences like NCDD, to
bring together 400 process activists who are striving to build both
their skill base and their professionalism but if I had been allowed to
hang out with those 400 people in OS instead of in boxes, gosh golly, I
would have been truly bedazzled instead of just having fun with a few
butterflies on the side.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/15/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Harrison Owen</b> <<a href="mailto:hhowen@adelphia.net">hhowen@adelphia.net</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div><font face="Arial">Mark -- I will match you Butterfly to Butterfly. And I
win, if only because I have been doing it longer, at least in an Open Space
environment. I have often thought that the only reason I didn't jettison OS
after the first (successful) run was that it felt so good -- and that was all
about being a Butterfly and enjoying the company of other such critters
(yourself, for example) out there in the flower patch. After all, I have a
notoriously short attention span, and doing something for 20 years is simply out
of character. So nothing I said should be construed as derogatory to that
exalted state and condition. Butterflies forever!</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">I guess what I was responding to in Peggy's note was that
I truly didn't see the example she gave as being that of "advanced Butterfly
Behavior." To me it looked pretty much like same old, same old, (pre-selected
group) and truth be told -- "narrow minded and short sighted." If folks choose
such activity, so be it and God love them. But from where I sit, it radically
sub-optimizes the possibilities of Open Space, simply because it reduces the
diversity of the conversation pool. And yes I too love to sit with one or two
"good buddies" (new or old) -- but my constant experience is that the odd,
wayward, interloper (butterfly) usually adds spice to the occasion. Of
course it sometimes ends it too -- and the two feet take over. However
the novelty of a new face, mind, point of view is almost inevitably a
positive (except when it isn't).</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">There is one point on which I really must (I think) take
issue with you. You said, "AND --- All of this occurs "outside" of the formal
process and form of OST. "Butterfly-ness" is acknowledged by the process, and
held by the form of OST. But it is not the practice-normed form of OST
which is essentially --gatherings around publicly advertised topics and
conveners in specific places at specific times." Actually I would see
"butterfly-ness" as the essence of Open Space and all the rest as
a practical accommodation to the needs of some (many) people for a specific
time, place, and topic. Of course the "time" is a movable feast (starts when it
starts) and the topic seems to mutate, and even the "place" can be a sometime
thing. In the very best of Open Spaces (vibrant, alive, fiercely productive,
fun, frivolous, and seriously engaging) in my experience, the minimal structure
of time/place/topic/ participants breaks down completely and everything is in a
constant flow-state. It is all butterflies! So maybe the "practice-normed form
of OST" is simply practice and preparation for that wonderful moment when
we all learn to fly. Now THAT would be "advanced Butterfly
Behavior!"</font></div></div><div><span class="sg">
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<div><font face="Arial">Harrison <br></font></div>
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</span></div><div><div></div><div><span class="q">Harrison Owen<br>7808 River Falls Dr.<br>Potomac, MD
20854<br>USA<br>301-365-2093<br>207-763-3261 (summer)<br>website <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">www.openspaceworld.com</a><br></span></div><div>
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<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
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<b>From:</b>
<a title="mark.r.jones@sunyata.ws" href="mailto:mark.r.jones@sunyata.ws" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">Mark R.
Jones</a> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><b>To:</b> <a title="hhowen@verizon.net" href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
Harrison Owen</a> ; <a title="OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">OSLIST</a> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:00
PM</div></span></div><div><span class="e" id="q_10d1372bb6780d6b_7">
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: Advanced Butterfly
Behavior</div>
<div><br></div><font face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size: 12px;">Hi H (Harrison) and Peggy.<br><br>Hmmmmmmmmmm . .
.<br><br>There is an element here for me that is implied in Peggy's<br>piece
and your response to it that I would like to explore . . .<br><br>The
"butterfly" phenomena in OST has been widely acknowledged<br>by you and
others. As a dedicated "butterfly" myself, I find<br>that I do have some
reflections on the topic that Peggy has raised.<br><br>In my "butterfly-ness",
I assemble, attract, and/or am attracted<br>to people with which I typically
have very intense, personal, and<br>private conversations with. These
conversations occur in both 1:1<br>and group forms. H, over the years, you and
I have had these types <br>of interactions with each other -- in the midst of
OS events.<br><br>In my "butterfly-ness", I discern who I want to be in
conversation <br>with -- The Law of Two Feet -- and then act upon that
discernment. <br>As you know H, I rarely actually attend "called" (posted)
sessions.<br><br>Yet, I feel welcome to play in Open Space -- not negatively
judged <br>for my discernment -- my exercise of The Law of Two Feet.<br><br>In
my "butterfly-ness", I learn to hear, see, and love other people.<br>And
perhaps others learn to hear, see, and love me and each other.<br>I acquire
and refine insights and discover connections. <br><br>Unfortunately, I
rarely document my learnings within the formal <br>mechanisms of OST.
And my "public" sharings do not contain the <br>richness of the private
details that I have discovered.<br><br>Yet, I feel that there is some common
good that comes of it.<br>Some mutual sense of interconnection, compassion,
and understanding<br>is established. Some of the insights are returned
to the public<br>forum. And, interpersonal relationships are established
and/or<br>reinforced.<br><br>AND --- All of this occurs "outside" of the
formal process and form<br>of OST. "Butterfly-ness" is acknowledged by
the process, and held <br>by the form of OST. But it is not the
practice-normed form of OST<br>which is essentially -- gatherings around
publicly advertised topics <br>and conveners in specific places at specific
times.<br><br>If in the two examples that Peggy gave, the participants had
simply<br>"butterflyed" their intention to meet together -- there would have
<br>been no public declaration and no public outrage and judgment,
and<br>possibly no public sharing. The "sessions" would have occurred
outside<br>of the formal process and form of OST. <br><br>But I suspect
that the session participants chose to try to in some way <br>to "honor" the
formal process and form of OST by attempting to use some <br>of the OST
mechanisms of "public" declaration. This partial revelation <br>of
intent created a public stir regarding what was in all likelihood <br>a space
in which very personal and private conversations could
occur.<br><br><br>Peggy's inquiry provokes me to ponder: <br> * What ways
does and can the formal process and form of OST more
deeply<br> embrace and benefit from
"butterfly-ness"?<br> * Does the formal process and form of OST
fundamentally reject "private"<br> conversation and its
manifestation in some forms of "butterfly-ness"?<br> * Is the
manifestation of some forms of "butterfly-ness" as
"private"<br> conversation a perversion of OST?<br> * Is
acting upon "The Law of Two Feet" as a means of
interpersonal<br> relationship discernment a perversion of
OST?<br> * In the cultural norms of OST, am I required to give up my
practice<br> of choosing who I want to interact
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<b>From: </b>Harrison Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@adelphia.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">hhowen@adelphia.net</a>><br><b>Reply-To:
</b>Harrison Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">hhowen@verizon.net</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Tue, 15 Aug 2006
08:13:27 -0400<br><b>To:
</b><<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: Advanced
Butterfly Behavior<br><br></span></font><span style="font-size: 12px;"><font face="Arial">I am not sure that I would see such occurrences as "advanced
butterfly behavior. Narrow minded and shortsighted come to mind. Folks will do
what they will do -- and whatever happens is the only thing that could have. .
. but I really think that the conveners of such groups are short-changing
themselves and all those who come to the session (and maybe all those who
don't, as well). By arbitrarily restricting the diversity of the group the
potential for new and deeper thought/experience is radically reduced. I must
also confess to a certain abhorrence to terms like "culturally mature" -- and
even more with those who think they could make such a determination. I am
reminded of the situation at the recent OS for Imams and Rabbis. As it
happened there were several young students present including a delightful 19
year old lady from Indonesia. On the face of it, I doubt she would have made
anybody's list as "culturally mature." And given her natural modesty I am sure
that she would never have made the association for herself. But the fact of
the matter is that her natural charm, intelligence and curiosity made her in
my eyes (and for others as well) one of the real stars of the gathering. If
nothing else, she was willing to ask questions that everybody else was
assiduously avoiding. Would I do anything to stop such segregated gatherings?
No -- but I guess I would hope that part of the learning curve for the
Culturally Mature was coming to see that there are really better ways than
hiding out in a room, talking to each other.<br></font><font face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><br> <br></font><font face="Arial">Harrison<br></font><font face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><br> <br> <br>Harrison Owen<br>
7808
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<blockquote><span style="font-size: 12px;"><font face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><br>----- Original Message -----
<br> <br><b>From:</b> Peggy Holman <a href="mailto:peggy@opencirclecompany.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"><mailto:peggy@opencirclecompany.com></a>
<br> <br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>
<br> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 14, 2006 8:26
PM<br> <br><b>Subject:</b> Advanced Butterfly
Behavior<br> <br><br> <br></font><font face="Comic Sans MS, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><br><br></font></span><font size="4"><font face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size: 13px;">As I mentioned in my last e-mail, now that I�m
back after about a year away from the OS list, I�ve got a variety of
questions, stories and learnings to share over the next few weeks.
This question popped to the top of my
list.<br></span></font></font><font face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size: 12px;"><br> <br> <br></span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><br></span></font><span style="font-size: 12px;">
<br></span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 13px;">There is a situation that I have now
experienced twice in long OS gatherings with many experienced OSers.
It is a dynamic that has an important and potentially dissonant
energy. I'm wondering if others have encountered this and what
their thoughts are on it. My suspicion is that we'll see more of
it as more people attend longer OS gatherings and generally develop
more experience with OS.<br></span></font><span style="font-size: 12px;"><br></span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font><span style="font-size: 12px;"><br></span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 13px;">
My hunch is that this is a phenomenon that
deserves a name, much like bumblebees and
butterflies.<br></span></font><span style="font-size: 12px;"><br></span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font><span style="font-size: 12px;"><br></span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 13px;">
So, with that preamble, here's the description
and two specific examples:<br></span></font><span style="font-size: 12px;"><br></span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font><span style="font-size: 12px;"><br></span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 13px;">
There's a session that emerges from what is
happening in the mix. The convenor(s) have some very specific
people they wish to meet with and aren't interested in having it open
to whoever wanders in. It is similar to what happens when
butterflies meet but because there is more intentionality and
potentially larger numbers, it is its own
thing.<br></span></font><span style="font-size: 12px;"><br></span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font><span style="font-size: 12px;"><br></span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 13px;">
Two examples:<br></span></font><span style="font-size: 12px;"><br></span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font><span style="font-size: 12px;"><br></span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 13px;">
At the April Evolutionary
Salon:<br></span></font><span style="font-size: 12px;"><br></span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 13px;">We had an expert in a process who
was willing to do a session but he felt that his work required a
targeted group (in his terms, the "culturally mature"). We were
interested in experiencing this and quietly put the word out to the
people we wanted in the room. When others also came, they were
welcomed.<br></span></font><span style="font-size: 12px;"><br> <br> <br></span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 13px;">At the Practice of Peace in 2003 and in her
words:<br></span></font><span style="font-size: 12px;"><br></span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><i>On the last day of the
conference, I woke up with a clarity of what I should do if I really
cared to take this rare, international opportunity one step further
into the future. I saw a session with specific people
(very engaged and personally interested, committed to the theme I was
passionate to explore, with very "concentrated energy" that I felt was
essential for a breakthrough in clarity and identifying what was
next.) <br></i></span></font><span style="font-size: 12px;"><br></span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><br></span></font><span style="font-size: 12px;"><br></span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 13px;">
She was fine if others appeared but did
not wish to announce the session. She pulled the post-it for the
space from the time/space grid and then quietly put out the word to
the people she had in mind. Some of them came to the session and
others chose to go to other sessions. A few others appeared during the
session and were welcomed. She created a session report an hour
after the session was over. She had intended to talk about the session
and the experimentation during the closing circle. (For a
variety of unrelated reasons, that closing circle never quite
happened, so this became painful unfinished business for her.)In both
cases, there was some reflection by the hosts after the OS completed.
Some saw the sessions as fine, appropriate butterfly behavior.
Others were disturbed by the lack of transparency, feeling that
it was a drag on the energy field.<br></span></font><span style="font-size: 12px;"><br> <br> <br></span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 13px;">I am reflecting that as participants become
very mature, posting such sessions, complete with a mindful request
about who comes is an ideal for this; also VERY challenging to
do!<br></span></font><span style="font-size: 12px;"><br></span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font><span style="font-size: 12px;"><br></span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 13px;">
Thoughts?<br></span></font><span style="font-size: 12px;"><br> <br> <br></span><font size="4"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Peggy<br></span></font><span style="font-size: 12px;"><br></span></font><font size="4"><font face="Times New Roman">
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