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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Carol Hiltner
[mailto:carol.hiltner@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Thursday, </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>May 25, 2006</span></font><font
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> OSLIST@listserv.boisestate.edu<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: The Da Vinci
Connection -- Open Space and the Feminine</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>How can we most wonderfully <em><i><font face="Times New Roman">be</font></i></em>
the dance? We can be whole -- both being and dancing. Open space is the essence
of sacred feminine, the dance that fills it is the essence of sacred masculine.
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Carol<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On </span></font></span><span
 class=gmailquote>5/25/06</span><span class=gmailquote>, <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>Harrison Owen</span></b> <<a
href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>> wrote:</span> </p>

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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>"So if Open Space is a dance, where does that
take us?"</span></font></p>

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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>A delightfully masculine question, </span></font>Harrison!
Where does anything take us? The counterpart feminine question is, "How
can we most wonderfully  <em><i><font face="Times New Roman">be</font></i></em>
the dance?"</p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Carol</span></font></p>

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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Works for me: </span></font>"How
can we most wonderfully <em><i><font face="Times New Roman"> be</font></i></em>
the dance?"</p>

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<p><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
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<p align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Harrison Owen</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Personal website</span></font><font
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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Carol Hiltner [mailto:<a
href="mailto:carol.hiltner@gmail.com" target="_blank"
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> carol.hiltner@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Thursday, May
 25, 2006</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
 style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>12:25 PM</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" target="_blank"
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">hhowen@verizon.net</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:OSLIST@listserv.boisestate.edu" target="_blank"
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">OSLIST@listserv.boisestate.edu</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject: </span></b>Re: The Da Vinci
Connection -- Open Space and the Feminine</span></font></p>

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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>"So if Open Space is a dance, where does that
take us?"</span></font></p>

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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>A delightfully masculine question, </span></font>Harrison!
Where does anything take us? The counterpart feminine question is, "How
can we most wonderfully  <em><i><font face="Times New Roman">be</font></i></em>
the dance?"</p>

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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Carol<br>
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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On </span></font>5/25/06, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Harrison Owen</span></b> < <a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net"
target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">hhowen@verizon.net</a>>
wrote: </p>

<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I think it is fair to say that the female/male
(feminine/masculine) dance<br>
has been something of a marathon. Occasionally it really flows, as any good <br>
dance/dancers might hope for. For myself, I remember those occasions as<br>
extraordinary moments. But then I love to dance. At other times there are a<br>
lot of feet that get stepped. And sometimes, one partner or the other simply <br>
gets swept off the floor and/or chooses to retire -- which makes the dance<br>
something of an oddity, not to say virtually impossible.<br>
<br>
So if Open Space is a dance, where does that take us?<br>
<br>
</span></font>Harrison<br>
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Harrison Owen<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: OSLIST [mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU"
target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] On Behalf Of Pat Black <br>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:05 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank"
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
Subject: The Da Vinci Connection -- Open Space and the Feminine<br>
<br>
As some of my favorite books are being offered for reading I would like <br>
to add another.  Layne Remonds's When The Woman Were Drummers has
some <br>
interesting insights about the change in balance.  According to Redmond<br>
there was also a corresponding change in the relationship to the drum's <br>
purpose and who played it.  There are many vase pictures of woman<br>
holding round disk objects.  Before woman had access to the acadamy
most<br>
male archeologists discribed those disks as cakes.  Gimbutus says
they<br>
are drums.  Redmond is a frame drummer herself and I think, quite a<br>
scholar on the history of the frame drum.  I seem to remember some<br>
issues between Moses and his sister Miriam before leaving Eygpt.  I
am<br>
no Old Testament scholar but seem to remember that Miriam was a drummer <br>
and there were some power struggles between her and Moses.  I think
it <br>
was the people that insisted Miriam be included.  That would at least<br>
date this struggle in the balance between the masculine and feminine to <br>
that time.<br>
Pat Black<br>
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