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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Balance seems to be one of the laws of the
universe. There is time for open space and there is time for space that is not
so open. It seems to me that both Open Space Technology and the potlatch are
highly structured....just differently so....part of the magic of an OST meeting
is that it is highly structured. I also think that the start of an OST meeting
is highly controlled...to get that ‘space’ open. Hence the control
to ensure that there is no effect from what </span></font><st1:place><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Harrison</span></font></st1:place><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> calls ‘space
invaders’. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So, I am thinking that the difference
between the potlatch and the OST might not be about control or structure...but
about something else. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Any thoughts?</span></font></span><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Birgitt<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Chris Corrigan<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, April 06, 2006
1:18 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Edinburgh festival..
an Open space event</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Just a technical piece...potlatches are about as far
from Open Space as you can imagine. They are highly structured and
controlled events and there is very little tolerance for anything that lies
outside of the control of the people that are responsible for given parts of
the ceremonies. In fact, working here on the west ocast of North America,
where the feasting culture is integral to traditional forms of governance,
using Open Space sometimes becomes a real challenge. <br>
<br>
On the other hand, most people i work with who stop to think about it agree
that Open Space resonates on a deeper level and taps something that seems to
lie at the heart of many different traditional and indigenous cultures. <br>
<br>
But potlatches...woowhee...they would drive you around the bend, Harrison!<br>
<br>
Chris<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=gmailquote><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 4/5/06, <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>Harrison Owen</span></b> <<a
href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net"> hhowen@verizon.net</a>> wrote:</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Diane -- Surprise! And guess where a major part of the
inspiration for Open <br>
Space came from? Indigenous Market places! All of which work pretty much the<br>
same was as a Potlatch. Same old, same old :-)<br>
<br>
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On Behalf Of Diane<br>
Brandon<br>
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 12:39 PM <br>
To: <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
Subject: Re: Edinburgh festival.. an Open space event<br>
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Chris's comment resonated for me. Our family has had some wonderful <br>
weekends centered around an indigenous pow wow. Usually it's a full<br>
weekend - sleep over two nights - and there are lots of things going on<br>
-- food vendors, arts and crafts vendors, children's games, always the<br>
circle in the center, drumming much of the time, dances of many sorts,<br>
great ceremonial dress, some or all dances open to all (some for<br>
skilled dancers only), story telling, flute playing, sometimes sweat<br>
lodges, sometimes workshops on healing/spiritual topics or on making <br>
things, and nothing requires attendance! Many people sit around their<br>
campsites, sleep, talk at picnic tables, swim in the river where that's<br>
an option, take care of kids -- oh yes, all ages are welcome and are<br>
there, with a lot of honor for elders (much appreciated by this<br>
grandmother) and for veterans (something I was on the fence about - but<br>
my husband was in the Navy for 4 years in the Vietnam era, and it means<br>
so much to him to dance in the veterans' honoring dance, and I get to <br>
join him.... so I've warmed to it). Many people camp out in
tents and<br>
trailers, so we live together for the weekend, and the cost is minimal.<br>
There's plenty of room for offering what you want to offer, if not in a <br>
more formal way, then via your own campsite and conversations there or<br>
as you walk around. (I'm sure if you hang a flag at your campsite about<br>
your topic, you'll attract some interest!) The place-basedness of it, <br>
and all the preparation that goes into it on the part of the tribe or<br>
tribes or individuals that organize it (they usually include one free<br>
feast, and often a give-away), seem core to the sense of deep<br>
satisfaction people get from going to these weekends. I think it's very <br>
close to Open Space!<br>
<br>
Diane Brandon<br>
Eliot, Maine<br>
<br>
On Apr 5, 2006, at 10:22 AM, Chris Weaver wrote:<br>
<br>
> on a related large other topic, i am deeply interested in the overlap<br>
> between ost and ceremony in indigenous traditions. festival
life, <br>
> which<br>
> culminates on a specific piece of land for a specific period of time,<br>
> has<br>
> some fascinating resonance with ceremonial space/time. a topic
to<br>
> explore<br>
> another time.<br>
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