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Hi Jeff and Lisa,<br>
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Further, i would say that those who would "<i><font face="Trebuchet MS"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-style: italic;">NOT show
up - simply to prevent a real solution from
being created..." </span></font></i><br>
are inherently an impediment to a solution. If "they" are willing to
take any action with the intent to block a solution, then their
motivation is something other than finding a solution. And therefore
any solution they would find if they did show up would be based on
whatever their motivation is and likely not the most auspicious
solution for the whole situation. This means that the self-fulfilling
prophecy that <i><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-style: italic;"> 'whomever
show up are the right people'</span></font></i> is successful, yet
again, under these circumstances. In fact i would also propose that
this example is a valid "proof" of the statement.<br>
<br>
duff<br>
<br>
Lisa Heft wrote:
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Hi, Jeff -</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">You wrote:</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left: 0.25in;"><font
face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">< <i><span
style="font-style: italic;">I recently
pitched an OS Event for a community transformation project. </span></i></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left: 0.25in;"><i><font
face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-style: italic;">The
customer is well versed in Complexity Theory as applied to large scale
change
and has a negative opinion of OST. His argument is with the tenant that
'whomever
show up are the right people'. He feels that for much of the work we
need to do
- the right people will NOT show up - simply to prevent a real solution
from
being created...Thoughts</span></font></i>?></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">So what does this mean – that the ‘other’
right people
can’t co-create a (sometimes even better) solution without them?</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Does he mean that the key people with
information, resources,
authority, stakes in the outcome and the ability to act will not show
up?</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">To me, that is a function of the invitation
(the methods of invitation,
the messages, the diversity and involvement of people inviting, the
process of
inviting, working hard to eliminate any access issues) rather than the
method.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">For *<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">any</span></b>*
method, there
can be frustration if key people don’t show up (to the meetings, to the
conversation, to the work).</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">And gee, we are talking about transformation,
aren’t we?
How do you let in transformation if you don’t believe that the right
people
WILL show up?? </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Perhaps he is expressing something behind
this comment that really gets
to what he’s thinking? Some frustration about – for example –
his feeling people *<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">should</span></b>*
do something
that the people themselves do not feel compelled to do? Frustration
about
others not feeling these issues are top priority, as he does? I feel
there is another layer of information here…do you have an idea?</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Lisa</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">___________________________</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">L i s a H e f t</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Consultant, Facilitator, Educator</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">O p e n i n g S p a c e</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><a href="mailto:lisaheft@openingspace.net">lisaheft@openingspace.net</a>
</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><a href="http://www.openingspace.net/">www.openingspace.net</a>
</span></font></p>
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>From Wed Mar 15 07:16:33 2006
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:16:33 -0800
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Subject: Re: planting seeds
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Hi, Patricia -
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< "Has anyone used Open Space with school-age children or youth? seems =
like
they would get the process quickly!">
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I have done OS with young people - the most dramatic one was for 850 =
youth
from ages 14 to 18 - the theme was inspired by Gandhi's "Be the change =
you
want to see in the world".
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Numbers don't always measure everything, but just to give you an idea of =
the
energy - in 20 minutes they posted 225 sessions on the Agenda Wall.
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Topics ranged from "Child Soldiers", "Guns in Homes", "Death Penalty - =
Right
or Wrong?" and "How Modern Language Can Lead to Dispute" to "Who Will =
Pay
for AIDS", "US Intervention in Foreign Countries", "Race and Culture" =
and
"Can An Artist Change the World?".
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Space
Ever" (the difficulty was not because I got to work with fabulous young
people - it was more the physical space and the challenging client).
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It is also great for when you are combining youth and adults at a
conference, meeting or forum. "Levels the playing field" as the young
leaders convene discussions and teach wisdom just as much as the =
oldsters.
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Lisa
___________________________
L i s a H e f t
Consultant, Facilitator, Educator
O p e n i n g S p a c e
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><i><font size=3D2
face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-style:italic'><
"Has anyone used Open Space with school-age children or youth? =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
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10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>I have done OS with young people – the most dramatic one =
was for
850 youth from ages 14 to 18 – the theme was inspired by =
Gandhi’s “Be
the change you want to see in the world”.</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>Numbers don’t always measure everything, but just to give =
you an
idea of the energy – in 20 minutes they posted 225 sessions on the =
Agenda
Wall.</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>Topics ranged from “Child Soldiers”, “Guns in =
Homes”,
“Death Penalty – Right or Wrong?” and “How =
Modern Language
Can Lead to Dispute” to “Who Will Pay for AIDS”, =
“US
Intervention in Foreign Countries”, “Race and Culture” =
and “Can
An Artist Change the World?”.</span></font></p>
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10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>You can read about it in the archives under “My Most =
Difficult
Open Space Ever” (the difficulty was not because I got to work =
with
fabulous young people – it was more the physical space and the
challenging client).</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>It is also great for when you are combining youth and adults at =
a
conference, meeting or forum. “Levels the playing =
field” as
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the
oldsters…</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>Consultant, Facilitator, Educator</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>O p e n i n g S p a c e</span></font></p>
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</span></font></p>
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