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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Just for the record –
the words, "What do we want to show and what do we actually show?" are Mizra’s
title</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT
color=#000000></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT color=#000000>not
Mizra but Mirza is the correct name.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<DIV></SPAN></FONT>--- Original Message ----- </DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=hhowen@verizon.net href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">Harrison Owen</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 20, 2006 6:25
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: YNT: Opening Space in some
different ways</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=red size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Just for the record –
the words, "What do we want to show and what do we actually show?" are Mizra’s
title. As often happens, the formatting got lost in the transmission.
</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=red size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=red size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">ho<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face=Arial color=red
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Harrison
Owen</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face=Arial color=red
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">7808
River Falls Drive</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Potomac,
Maryland 20854</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face=Arial color=red
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Phone
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=red size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">301-365-2093</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face=Arial color=red
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Skype
hhowen</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face=Arial color=red
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Open
Space Training</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red"> <A
href="http://www.openspaceworld.com"><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Open
Space Institute</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red"> <A
href="http://www.openspaceworld.org"><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">www.openspaceworld.org</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face=Arial color=red
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Personal
website</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red"> <A
href="http://www.ho-image.com/"><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">www.ho-image.com</SPAN></FONT></A>
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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face=Arial color=red
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">OSLIST</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Tree Fitzpatrick<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, February 20, 2006 10:45
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: YNT: Opening Space in some
different ways</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Harrison wrote
(maybe these are Mizra's words coming to us through Harrison?):<BR><BR>"What
do we want to show and what do we actually show?"<BR><BR>Tree
responds:<BR><BR>When I read this statement in HO's email, I expected a
completely AND TOTALLY different discussion. I thought Harrison was
going to talk about how in life (or open space) we can all do our best to
communicate whatever it is we want to communicate but as soon as our words
leave us and other people hear and/or read our words, we lose all control over
how they will be understood because every single human being has their own
unique set of filters. Still, even though Harrison's email with Mizra's
dialogue (how do all you people get so fluent in writing English when it is
not your second language? I am so humbled by all the non-English
speakers on this list who write so well in English.) focussed on the Danish
cartoon phenomenon, FOR ME, HO's email still has, for me, the meaning I first
gave it. For me, the message is that it is very important to be clear
within ourselves about what message we are trying to communicate. . . but it
is also very important to always remember that we cannot control how others
will perceive or understand our message.<BR><BR>Then Filiz
wrote:</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I do not feel comfortable with any text
that<BR>condemns a whole group (muslims in this case) with a certain
behavior and <BR>puts everyone in the same
box...</SPAN></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>Tree responds:<BR><BR>The text Filiz
is commenting on did not, in my perception, condemn anyone. I read it, I
think, as a parable that laid out some ways to think about the Danish cartoons
phenomenon. I read it as an invitation to think. My 'reaction' to
Mizra's dialogue is no more or no less valid than, for example,
Filiz's.<BR> <BR>Then Funda wrote:</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">i am not comfortable with boxes at all
and those who see each other through boxes.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Tree responds:<BR><BR>I do not think I
know anyone who is so evolved that they have no preconceived filters that they
use as they interact with other human beings. We all carry
filters. Maybe a newborn infant has no preconceived cultural
filters (we could call such filters boxes). <BR><BR>Now I am sitting
here with an inquiry of my own: what was HO trying to show us? And
what did he show us?</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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