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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think it was the tone of the text, <span
class=GramE>Tree, that</span> alarmed my filters. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>“<span class=GramE>you</span> <span
class=SpellE>muslims</span>” (or you Christian, or you Americans would do
the same for me) is somewhat alarming to my ears, whether it is a parable or
political statement…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=SpellE><span class=GramE><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>filiz</span></font></span></span><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=TR style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:TR;font-weight:bold'>Kimden:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=TR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
mso-ansi-language:TR'> Tree Fitzpatrick [mailto:therese.fitzpatrick@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Tarih:</span></b> Monday, February 20, 2006 <span
class=GramE>17:45</span><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Kime:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Konu:</span></b> Re: YNT: Opening Space in
some different ways</span></font><span lang=TR style='mso-ansi-language:TR'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Harrison wrote (maybe
these are Mizra's words coming to us through <st1:place w:st="on">Harrison</st1:place>?):<br>
<br>
"What do we want to show and what do we actually show?"<br>
<br>
Tree responds:<br>
<br>
When I read this statement in HO's email, I expected a completely AND TOTALLY
different discussion. I thought Harrison was going to talk about how in
life (or open space) we can all do our best to communicate whatever it is we
want to communicate but as soon as our words leave us and other people hear
and/or read our words, we lose all control over how they will be understood
because every single human being has their own unique set of filters.
Still, even though <st1:place w:st="on">Harrison</st1:place>'s email with
Mizra's dialogue (how do all you people get so fluent in writing English when
it is not your second language? I am so humbled by all the non-English
speakers on this list who write so well in English.) focussed on the Danish
cartoon phenomenon, FOR ME, HO's email still has, for me, the meaning I first
gave it. For me, the message is that it is very important to be clear
within ourselves about what message we are trying to communicate. . . but it is
also very important to always remember that we cannot control how others will
perceive or understand our message.<br>
<br>
Then Filiz wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I do not feel comfortable with any text that<br>
condemns a whole group (muslims in this case) with a certain behavior and <br>
puts everyone in the same box...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><br>
Tree responds:<br>
<br>
The text Filiz is commenting on did not, in my perception, condemn
anyone. I read it, I think, as a parable that laid out some ways to think
about the Danish cartoons phenomenon. I read it as an invitation to
think. My 'reaction' to Mizra's dialogue is no more or no less valid than,
for example, Filiz's.<br>
<br>
Then Funda wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>i am not comfortable with boxes at all and those who see each
other through boxes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Tree responds:<br>
<br>
I do not think I know anyone who is so evolved that they have no preconceived
filters that they use as they interact with other human beings. We
all carry filters. Maybe a newborn infant has no preconceived
cultural filters (we could call such filters boxes). <br>
<br>
Now I am sitting here with an inquiry of my own: what was HO trying to
show us? And what did he show us?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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