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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800080 size=2>Hi friends in Open
Space,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800080 size=2>the truth is, that Michael himself
deserves the honor for fighting for years to make the difference between
"begleiten" and "moderieren" common between germanspeaking
openspacenics.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800080 size=2>And I really agree with him:
"Begleiten" much more points out that the main power at work is the
selforganization and not the facilitators commands. And this helps creating a
more appropriate picture WHO is doing WHAT.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800080 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800080 size=2>Warmly from rainy Vienna</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800080 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800080 size=2>Erich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mmpanne@boscop.de href="mailto:mmpanne@boscop.de">Michael M
Pannwitz</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:05
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: OS newbie here</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I love this one, Tree.<BR>Its been quite a struggle to find an
alternative to "facilitate" in German.<BR>People here are often infatuated
with english/american words and just <BR>use such words as "facilitate" or
"facilitation" which dont mean a thing <BR>to "regular" folks even though they
might be pretty familiar with english.<BR>In German the word for the activity
people are involved in when they <BR>lead a structured exercise is
"moderieren", you can recognize it by the <BR>heavy activity on part of the
"moderator". When "facilitate" is used it <BR>is often with the intent to
convey that it is not "moderieren" but gives <BR>more space to the
group.<BR>The word that is now widely used by os-workers here to describe
holding <BR>time and space is "begleiten" which means as much as
"accompanying" or <BR>"going along with you" or "walking with you on the same
path". It is <BR>different enough from the commonly used "moderieren" to give
a hint to <BR>the difference.<BR>Another detail in this scheme is to me to
point out that the "Begleiter" <BR>focuses one holding time and space (which I
know when I see it but can <BR>describe it) while the sponsor opens the
space.<BR>There have been voices on this listserve about the terminology and
what <BR>words are being used in different languages. I would love to hear
more <BR>about this.<BR>Greetings from Berlin<BR>mmp<BR><BR>Tree Fitzpatrick
wrote:<BR><BR>> <BR>> Another thought: I am not quite sure that
holding space as an open<BR>> space practitioner is
facilitation. There is, at least I think there<BR>> is, an important
difference between holding space for strategic<BR>> planning and
facilitating a strategic planning
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