<div>Thanks, Ted. I knew it was different than a road trip. . . the focus/intention,I guess, is the distinction.</div>
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<div>Maybe my comment should be posted over in the OS blog that Wendy recently started. . . and I'll head over there. A road trip without a marketplace is, IMHO, also an open space gathering. <br><br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/16/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Ted Ernst</b> <<a href="mailto:tedernst@gmail.com">tedernst@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">yes, it was Tom or course, should've mentioned his name<br><br>Very different than a roadtrip with pals because a roadtrip with pals has conversation that flows naturally from movies to sports to wiki to organizing to co-ops to currency systems and so on, without any direction or point of focus, without an objective to any of the individual conversations and without any documentation.
<br><br>This 2 day rolling open space was like open space where we each proposed topics and then worked on those topics one at a time, of course sometimes wandering, but always having a point to come back to. Some of them were about meaning in life and sprituality and tend to be much like a trip with pals, getting ot know one another and ourselves, others were much more technical and felt like advancing projects that we all care about. We're now here for a 3 day conference where we're going to continue in open space even though the conference isn't, and then 2 days back in the van where I'm sure we'll be even more focused on next steps. So the bottom line for me is that this feels like continuing the work we're already doing on-line, not just shooting the breeze. And it's all documented in the notes on
<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://wiki.wikisym.org/space/WikiVanning" target="_blank">http://wiki.wikisym.org/space/WikiVanning</a>, not very human readable by others yet, but we can pull out the pieces that feel like they need to live on.
<br><br>Hope you're well.<br><br>hugs,<br>ted<br><br>
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<div><span class="e" id="q_106fae4a4ae43ad4_1"><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/15/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Tree Fitzpatrick</b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:therese.fitzpatrick@gmail.com" target="_blank">
therese.fitzpatrick@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></span></div>
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<div>Hi Ted. Umm, was the guy in Portland who mentioned Peggy Tom Atlee?</div>
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<div>Thanks for telling us about your day in open space. The question I am about to ask I ask with fondness and sincerity: how did this day differ from a 'road trip with pals'?</div>
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<div>I'm listening.<br><br> </div>
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<div><span><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/15/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Ted Ernst</b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:tedernst@gmail.com" target="_blank"> tedernst@gmail.com
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<div><span>Here's a photo of our wall (the dashboard): <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tedernst/52723409/" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/tedernst/52723409/
</a><br>and my others<br><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tedernst/tags/wikivanning/" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/tedernst/tags/wikivanning/ </a>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/15/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Ted Ernst</b> < <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:tedernst@gmail.com" target="_blank">tedernst@gmail.com</a>
> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">I've never had a day quite like yesterday. <br><br>I live in Chicago, flew to Portland, OR Thursday night and yesterday, spent from about 8am until 11pm in open space with 3 other people without the normal "breaks" for meals and such. Clearly a lot of times meal times at a conference are continuations of the sessions and topics from the conversation. This felt different. Let me back up. We're on our way to WikiSym, a conference (non-open space) in San Diego that starts Sunday. We wanted more face to face time in open space so we decided to do this drive.
<br><br>So leaving Portland, we got out some mailing labels and put our topics on the dashboard of the van! We drove to Eugene, about 2 hours away, and stopped for brunch at the Walnut Street Cooperative, a house where 9 people live. The brunch was hosted by two people and several others also joined in (those here are the right people!) and there were some really amazing conversatons and beginning friendships and collaborations there. After brunch we wanted a photo of all present so someone went to get another housemate to take it. When he found out who the travelers were and what we were doing, he asked if we had 5 minutes to hear about his stuff. We agreed and he blew us away for another 20 minutes and Peggy Holman's name came up as one of his collaborators. Connections!
<br><br>Then back in the van, just stops for bathroom and fuel (we had provisions with us in the van so didn't need to stop again to eat) and we worked through topic after topic from the dashboard. I'll have to get a photo of the dash uploaded, but in the meantime, here are our notes:
<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://wiki.wikisym.org/space/WikiVanning" target="_blank">http://wiki.wikisym.org/space/WikiVanning</a><br clear="all"><br>What a day!<br><br>peace, <br>ted
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