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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#487e9c" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#487E9C'>Brilliant, Peggy!<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#487e9c" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#487E9C'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#487e9c" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#487E9C'>Thank you for taking
the time to respond so generously and graciously to Steve Banks.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I completely agree with you.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#487e9c" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#487E9C'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#487e9c" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#487E9C'>For some time, I have offered
the perspective that OS is “2<sup>nd</sup>-tier“---the principles
of OS transcending and including all the potential 1<sup>st</sup>-tier
interactions---to others in the Integral/<span class=SpellE>SDi</span> community
who share this misconception that OS is a “green” method.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I have also introduced several “Integral/<span
class=SpellE>SDi</span>” folks to Open Space as a practical method congruent
with 2<sup>nd</sup>-tier thinking that allows people to more readily
embody/enact 2<sup>nd</sup>-tier, even convening a few Open Space events on their
behalf, and I’m happy to say that some folks seem to “get it,”
even though there are still others who maintain that OS is “green.”<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#487e9c" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#487E9C'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#487e9c" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#487E9C'>One theory I have about
this misconception in the realm of integral is that most of the folks within
the Integral/<span class=SpellE>SDi</span> communities who maintain that OS is “green”
have either not experience Open Space or they have experienced Open Space where
the center of gravity of the group in the room is green and the “integral”
folks in the room are confusing the state/stage of the people in the room with
the method… i.e. the fact that folks may be primarily embodying green during
an Open Space event does not mean that the Open Space method is green, just
like “Spiral Wizards” tailoring their interactions for the predominately
green consciousness of an audience, does not mean that they, the Spiral
Wizards, are operating from green consciousness…<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#487e9c" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#487E9C'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#487e9c" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#487E9C'>In any case, suffice
it to say that I really appreciate reading your wonderfully articulated and
educated written response.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#487e9c" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#487E9C'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#487e9c" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#487E9C'>Warm regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#487e9c" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#487E9C'>Karen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#487e9c" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#487E9C'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#487E9C'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#487e9c" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#487E9C'>Karen Sella <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#487e9c" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#487E9C'><a
href="http://www.luminacoaching.com/">www.luminacoaching.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#487e9c" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#487E9C'>206.780.2998<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#487e9c" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#487E9C'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Peggy Holman<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 26, 2005 2:55
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: An OS
"critique" and response</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Hhmmmm, I notice the
attachments aren't attached. Here are links instead:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>From Steve Banks: <a
href="http://www.opencirclecompany.com/FromOpenSpaceToIntegralSpace.doc">http://www.opencirclecompany.com/FromOpenSpaceToIntegralSpace.doc</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>My response: <a
href="http://www.opencirclecompany.com/IntegralOpenSpace.doc">http://www.opencirclecompany.com/IntegralOpenSpace.doc</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>still sunny in Seattle,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Peggy</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:peggy@OPENCIRCLECOMPANY.COM" title="peggy@OPENCIRCLECOMPANY.COM">Peggy
Holman</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU"
title="OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Friday,
August 26, 2005 2:00 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> [OSLIST] An
OS "critique" and response<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>My friend, Tom Atlee, sent
me the attached doc, From Open Space...egral Space.doc, by Steve
Banks. It struck me as so misinformed and error filled that I
responded with Integral Open Space.doc. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Thought you might find
both the impressions of a neophyte and my response of interest.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>from sunny Seattle,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Peggy</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>________________________________<br>
Peggy Holman<br>
The Open Circle Company<br>
15347 SE 49th Place<br>
Bellevue, WA 98006<br>
(425) 746-6274 </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><a
href="http://www.opencirclecompany.com">www.opencirclecompany.com</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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