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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I read a definition of peace which, I
thought, was very meaningful ; </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Peace is loving the life of the other...( maybe i
would say respecting instead of loving ) </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jack@designinglife.com href="mailto:jack@designinglife.com">Jack
Ricchiuto</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 11, 2005 4:03 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: London calling--long
reply</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">Being against violence doesn’t engage me in the same
way as being for peace.. Being for peace calls for a different part of my
brain and heart and eyes. In the tradition of my dominant learning, Buddhism,
peace is about caring and caring follows knowing. How we get to know each
other is an essential ingredient in the bread we call peace.<BR><BR>On 7/11/05
8:29 AM, "Jon Harvey" <only.connect@virgin.net>
wrote:<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT>
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face=Arial>Paul<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT color=#000080><FONT
face=Arial>Thank you for your comments and support. <BR></FONT></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT color=#000080><FONT
face=Arial>I think the core problem is that certain groups of people (and
Moslems are by no means alone in this) regard other groups as being of less
value. To my mind a person dying in Fallujah, London, New York, Jerusalem or
the West Bank - are all of equal value - no life is worth more than any
other. I look forward to a time when the women and men of religion
throughout the world, of all religions, unaninmously condemn <I>all</I> acts
of violence - be they acts that kill people, maim or mutilate people,
impoverish people or push people to despair - instead of (as many of them
do) excusing acts of such violence in names of 'war', 'the market' or
distorted ideas of 'freedom' (which are often code for 'my freedom to have
licence over your life..')<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT color=#000080><FONT
face=Arial>All violence is wrong. Any religion which actively or tacitly
supports such violence is not a religion I can support. In this sense it is
not a Moslem problem - it is a World problem, I
believe.<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT color=#000080><FONT
face=Arial>Peace be with you<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT color=#000080><FONT
face=Arial>Jon<BR></FONT></FONT></SPAN>
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face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> EVERETT813@aol.com
[<A
href="mailto:EVERETT813@aol.com]">mailto:EVERETT813@aol.com]</A><BR><B>Sent:</B>
09 July 2005 01:34<BR><B>To:</B> only.connect@virgin.net;
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: London
calling--long reply<BR><BR></FONT><FONT
face="Geneva, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial">Jon,<BR><BR>Just as it is for me,
personally, peace is an inside job. Until the Muslim societies
do what Mr. Friedman talks about in the below editorial, we are
going to be in this assymetrical warfare, tacitly supported by
Muslim's the world over. Remember the Palestinians dancing in
the streets when 9/11 occurred? That attitude toward the West
hasn't gone away. Muslim societies MUST make this terrorism a
totally unacceptable response to real or imagined grievances, just
as North Ireland's courageous ladies are beginning to do there.
Just as the West did when it intervened in Kosovo, on the side
of the Muslims there. <BR><BR>Peace is an inside job.
There is no peace where expansionist Muslim societies rub up
against others of different beliefs in many parts of the world.
There is a bad litany of religious violence all over Africa,
Asia and SE Asia where others believe differently than the Muslim's
do. The idea that religion can be spread by violence is what
must also be confronted by the Muslim leadership itself. The
world is NOT going to become Muslim, no matter how much Osama and
his ilk think it should be. Or, the folks in Sudan think it
should be. Or, in Indonesia. The rest of the world will
fight back. If it gets really grim, tens of millions will die.
Huntington's theses will have been proven true, to the great
detriment of the world's peoples. <BR><BR>So, the solution is
for the Muslim folks to decide they aren't the only Way to God
around this planet (true of the right wing Christian folk, too, but
they aren't out blowing up themselves, initiating slaughters like in
Darfur, Nigeria, etc.) and decide that want to live in harmony and
peace with their neighbors, who just happen to believe differently
than they do. I'm sure the majority of them do want peace and
harmony. But, the truth is, many don't. Those who do had
better start speaking out and saying so in loud words that have the
impact like the fatwa issued against Salman Rushdie, who had to go
into hiding to save his life.<BR><BR>These are un-PC comments, I
realize, but they are reflections of what I see in the world where
Muslim's dominate or are trying to dominate. The recent
reports by the UN, done by Muslim scholars, give strong evidence
that some people do see that their societies are the creators of
their own problems. Only one example: disenfranchisement of women in
nearly all those societies (but not all, I realize, Turkey a real
exception) for education, choice of husband, choice of whether or
not to have a family, female genital mutilation, etc.; a whole half
of their population repressed in ways we can't even comprehend.
They detail these kinds of repressive practices. And the
lack of societal hope because of their dictatorial governments,
which the West has supported and condoned, to their detriment,
too.<BR><BR>Peace is an inside job, everywhere.<BR><BR>Paul
Everett<BR><BR></FONT><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial">* *
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