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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=295232121-10072005>Funda-</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=295232121-10072005>How
can you say that the leaders of the G8 (or your leaders) are not wise?
They wouldn't be in the positions they are in if they were not wise. That
isn't to say that they make no mistakes. They are human. I am
'beyond baffled' at your shallow comment.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=295232121-10072005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=295232121-10072005>Also,
remember that Fahrenheit 9/11 is a Hollywood flick. Hardly factual...and
Michael Moore isn't exactly, a leader. He makes the big bucks because
people like yourself buy into his <EM>irrational
philosophies</EM>.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=295232121-10072005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=295232121-10072005>As for
your last comment, I guess you are trying to say that the "men in power" (the G8
leaders and your own) are the ones responsible for the terrorist attacks of
9/11, Spain and now London...............what the???????? You are entitled
to your own thoughts/beliefs but they are about as far from reality as any I
have ever heard!!!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=295232121-10072005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=295232121-10072005>Keep
smokin'.............</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Funda
Oral<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:06 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: London calling--long
reply<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Paul,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ok, i agree we can discuss the truths and
rules imposed on us by all the religions. I often think that they make us
sick, they separate us,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>they encourage us being enemy of each
other rather then brothers. </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>Or maybe, not
the religions but the leaders do so.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jon,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thank you for keeping us informed and sharing
with us what is happening in London but I am very doubtful that your (G8)
leaders are wise</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>as mentioned in your mail. Our leaders are
not wise either.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But even worse, i am afraid they cooperate
more to be in power rather then for the benefit of all the human
beings and the world.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Did anyone watch Fahrenheit 9/11?....What i
saw there was; some men in power (religious, business leaders) from
all the religions </FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>coming together to play with the rest of the
world.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If we look around carefully to find who is
responsible of what is happening, I don't think the answer is "a
bunch of terrorists" </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Funda</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<A title=EVERETT813@aol.com
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title=OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 09, 2005 9:37
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: London calling--long
reply</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT face=Geneva color=#000000
size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>In a message dated 7/8/05 11:10:06 PM, <A
href="mailto:chris.corrigan@gmail.com">chris.corrigan@gmail.com</A>
writes:<BR><BR><BR>
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF">I don't usually weigh in on stuff like this, and I'm
sure others will tan your hide for it, but Paul, I have to stand in front
of the rash generalizations you are making about
"Muslims."<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT face=Geneva color=#000000 size=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR><BR>Sorry, Chris, I don't regard those as "rash
generalizations", Friedman is correct, NO high order Muslim from any Muslim
nation has issued a fatwa on bin Laden and his followers. By that I
mean someone of the stature that issued the fatwa against Salman Rushdie for
publishing a book they deemed defamed Muhammad. The Muslim Islamic
cleric leader of Iran. <BR><BR>And, of course, you are
correct. There are millions of Muslims who abhor what is
happening. They want peace, too. They want a life of freedom,
economic security, etc., why else would they leave their repressive
homelands to come to the Western nations? Friedman's point (and mine)
is unless IMPORTANT people of the leadership of Muslim nations start to
speak out in loud, consistent tones that such is not part of the Koran (Ch.
5, v. 32; ch. 17, v. 33 according to an Immam I heard on the news tonight)
</FONT><FONT face=Geneva color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><I>and
their societies begin to isolate and negate these people,</I></FONT><FONT
face=Geneva color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> we are in for a very
bad time, indeed.<BR><BR>You may be enlightened, but I will predict that if
this goes on, and gets worse, large numbers of people will not be acting in
an enlightened manner. We all know about the 'tipping point'. It
happens in societies, too. It CAN happen here. Imagine the reaction of
even a very large minority to a WMD incident in a major Western
nation. It won't be pretty.<BR><BR>Finally, there is much that can be
done to avoid Huntington's Thesis, but it takes a long time, a long time,
and will take something along the line of Martin Luther's 95 Theses within
Islam before we will see a genuine rapproachment between the globalizing
West and the Islamic world. I believe we need to see the world as it
is, not as we wish it was, and take steps
accordingly.<BR><BR>Sincerely,<BR><BR>Paul Everett<BR><BR></FONT><FONT
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