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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>OK David -- but what DVD???</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Harrison</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Harrison Owen<BR>7808 River Falls Dr.<BR>Potomac, MD
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<DIV><BR></DIV>One important thing - would you please put a pair of scissors
through the <BR>DVD you currently have - don't want any possibility of
confusion re <BR>versions.<BR><BR>Thanks<BR><BR>David<BR><BR><BR>-----
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Jun 2005 (#2005-169)<BR><BR><BR>> There are 23 messages totalling 4999
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1. this day merits a "C"<BR>> 2. leverage points (2)<BR>> 3.
test<BR>> 4. test again (2)<BR>> 5. Hello from Sweden
(2)<BR>> 6. Surprise<BR>> 7. Reflections at 100--#
26<BR>> 8. Desperately seeking... (2)<BR>> 9. SV: Hello from
Sweden<BR>> 10. OS research<BR>> 11. OST Practitioner in Indonesia
(3)<BR>> 12. turkish at osworld.org web page<BR>> 13. Timing for really
large groups (5)<BR>><BR>> *<BR>> *<BR>>
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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:10:09 +0400<BR>>
From: Raffi Aftandelian <<A
href="mailto:raffi@bk.ru">raffi@bk.ru</A>><BR>> Subject: this day merits
a "C"<BR>><BR>> Dear colleagues,<BR>><BR>> This Saturday I began
running a Working with OST Workshop, which runs<BR>> over two weekends.
Most of the first day of the workshop was a one day<BR>> OST meeting on
"Creating Healthy Organizations: issues and<BR>> opportunities." For this
first day, "external" people were invited so<BR>> that we would get a
critical mass necessary to create the dynamic of<BR>> an OST
meeting.<BR>><BR>> It was a very fruitful meeting, judging from the
number of reports,<BR>> the titles of the reports, the notes, and the hum.
We had 3 concurrent<BR>> sessions the whole time. I wish I had opened a
fourth session...<BR>><BR>> Among session topics:<BR>> 1. Good
illnesses: are growing pains necessary?<BR>> 2. What is a healthy
organization after all?<BR>> 3. Creativity: to be or not to be
creative?<BR>> 4. How to integrate the 4 principles into organizational
order<BR>> 5. Organizations are miracles (session held twice)<BR>> 6.
Big hairy goals or our small comfortable world<BR>> 7. What will happen on
Monday?<BR>><BR>> The variety of people in the group gathered also
really surprised me: <BR>> experienced corporate<BR>> trainers, manager
of an internet trainings portal, 2 management<BR>> consultants, director of
one of Russia's oldest organizations working<BR>> with children with Down's
Syndrome, a hairdresser/entrepreneur, a <BR>> psychologist who works
with<BR>> families in crisis, and many other folks.<BR>><BR>> At the
closing circle there were many who were quite eager to continue<BR>> the
conversation.<BR>><BR>> One comment in the closing circle really
intrigued and troubled me:<BR>><BR>> "I give today a "C." This came from
the corporate trainer with whom<BR>> I'd met with over lunch a week ago and
explained OST in detail, the<BR>> facilitator's role in
detail.<BR>><BR>> I followed up with him post-meeting by email and some
interesting<BR>> things emerged.<BR>><BR>> As I gave thought to his
"C", I ventured that in fact he really gave<BR>> himself a "C" and that it
would be foolish to give OST a "C." He<BR>> agreed.<BR>><BR>> I also
ventured that I think we are at a point in human development<BR>> where
giving feedback is, well, passe. That perhaps it makes more<BR>> sense to
ask appropriate, well-timed questions that invite as opposed<BR>> to
tell.<BR>><BR>> What he also said is that he didn't like the fact that
so much time<BR>> went to explaining things to people in sessions and that
he could've<BR>> found the answers to many things himself.<BR>><BR>>
What drove him mad, though, was that there was one participant who<BR>>
would come to those groups where he was comfortable. With the arrival<BR>>
of that participant, everyone else would begin to leave, himself<BR>>
included. Loss of control?<BR>><BR>> I have never heard such comments
from participants about OST meetings <BR>> before. I am<BR>> inclined to
think that what this participant saw (or maybe hasn't<BR>> chosen to see
yet) were some parts of himself that he didn't like.<BR>><BR>> He later
shared that the meeting just didn't grab him. I beg to<BR>> differ. Grab it
did, but not in a place he would prefer to be grabbed.<BR>><BR>> His "C"
at first really troubled me. I felt alone for a whole night. I<BR>>
realized that in my work with OST, no matter what people say I have to<BR>>
continue. I know I am a fool, just accept it and move on.<BR>><BR>>
Raffi<BR>><BR>><BR>>
<A href="mailto:raffi@bk.ru">mailto:raffi@bk.ru</A><BR>><BR>> *<BR>>
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Jun 2005 02:51:06 EDT<BR>> From: <A
href="mailto:EVERETT813@aol.com">EVERETT813@aol.com</A><BR>> Subject: Re:
leverage points<BR>><BR>> --part1_13f.15b67f88.2fe912da_boundary<BR>>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"<BR>>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable<BR>><BR>><BR>> In a
message dated 6/20/05 8:32:55 PM, <A
href="mailto:therese.fitzpatrick@gmail.com">therese.fitzpatrick@gmail.com</A>
<BR>> writes:<BR>><BR>><BR>>> Thanks for your thoughts,
Paul.=A0 I disagree with what you wrote about<BR>>> 'right' being
judgmental in this principle. . . . but, hey, it's all<BR>>> good for
me.<BR>>>=20<BR>><BR>> Well, that's good Therese, because I had no
conscious thought about <BR>> 'right'=20<BR>> being a judgment in what I
wrote (right as in correct people). Now, it <BR>> mig=<BR>>
ht=20<BR>> have been there unconsciously, I can grant that, but I'd like
the sentence <BR>> o=<BR>> r=20<BR>> phrase that said that to you,
please. Because I don't see my postings on <BR>> t=<BR>>
he=20<BR>> Listserv for some reason. They don't show up on my
list of posts from <BR>> the=20<BR>> Listserv. Joelle gets
them on her screen name but I don't ever see <BR>> them=20<BR>>
again. =20<BR>><BR>> Further, I thought I was writing
about how people are chosen and the=20<BR>> principle being about the
decision-maker who decides to choose. I don't <BR>> se=<BR>>
e any=20<BR>> judgment in that about 'right' people. Just a
study that discovered the <BR>> ma=<BR>> in=20<BR>> criteria for
being chosen: known by, and proximate to, the decision-maker. <BR>>
=20=<BR>> So,=20<BR>> give me a hand because I find myself mainly in
agreement with your=20<BR>> dissertation and thus am a bit
mystified.<BR>><BR>> It occurs to me we may be talking about two
different posts? Or an <BR>> old=20<BR>> post??
Not one from today. I posted twice today and haven't posted in
<BR>> a=20=<BR>> while=20<BR>> before that. So, help me
out, on the board or privately, please.<BR>><BR>>
Sincerely,<BR>><BR>> Paul=20<BR>><BR>> *<BR>> *<BR>>
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FACE=3Darial,helvetica><HTML><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" <BR>>
FACE=3D"Gen=<BR>> eva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"
SIZE=3D"2"><BR><BR>> In a message dated 6/20/05 8:32:55 PM, <A
href="mailto:therese.fitzpatrick@gmail.com">therese.fitzpatrick@gmail.com</A>
<BR>> writes:=<BR>> <BR><BR>> <BR><BR>>
<BR><BR>> <BLOCKQUOTE CITE STYLE=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px
solid; MARGIN-LEFT: <BR>> 5px;=20=<BR>> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT:
5px" TYPE=3D"CITE"></FONT><FONT <BR>> COLOR=3D"#0=<BR>>
00000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2">Thanks for your
<BR>> thoug=<BR>> hts, Paul.=A0 I disagree with what you wrote
about<BR><BR>> 'right' being judgmental in this principle. . . . but,
hey, it's all<BR><BR>> good for me.<BR><BR>>
</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva"
<BR>> FAMILY=3D"SANSSE=<BR>> RIF" SIZE=3D"2"><BR><BR>>
<BR><BR>> Well, that's good Therese, because I had no conscious
thought about <BR>> 'right'=20=<BR>> being a judgment in what I wrote
(right as in correct people). Now, <BR>> i=<BR>> t might
have been there unconsciously, I can grant that, but I'd like the <BR>>
se=<BR>> ntence or phrase that said that to you, please.
Because I don't see <BR>> m=<BR>> y postings on the Listserv for some
reason. They don't show up on <BR>> my=20=<BR>> list of
posts from the Listserv. Joelle gets them on her screen
<BR>> name=20=<BR>> but I don't ever see them
again. <BR><BR>>
<BR><BR>> Further, I thought I was writing about how people are
chosen and the <BR>> princip=<BR>> le being about the decision-maker who
decides to choose. I don't <BR>> see=20=<BR>> any
judgment in that about 'right' people. Just a study that
<BR>> discover=<BR>> ed the main criteria for being chosen:
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" <BR>> FACE=<BR>> =3D"Geneva"
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2"><I>known by, and proximate to,
<BR>> t=<BR>> he decision-maker</I></FONT><FONT
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" <BR>> FAMILY=<BR>> =3D"SANSSERIF"
SIZE=3D"2">. So, give me a hand because I find <BR>>
myself=20=<BR>> mainly in agreement with your dissertation and thus am a
bit <BR>> mystified.<BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> It occurs to me
we may be talking about two different posts? Or an <BR>>
ol=<BR>> d post?? Not one from today. I
posted twice today and <BR>> haven't=20=<BR>> posted in a while before
that. So, help me out, on the board or <BR>> priva=<BR>>
tely, please.<BR><BR>> <BR><BR>>
Sincerely,<BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> Paul </FONT><FONT
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" <BR>> SIZ=<BR>>
E=3D"2"></FONT></HTML><BR>> *<BR>> *<BR>>
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------------------------------<BR>><BR>> Date: Tue, 21
Jun 2005 09:51:25 +0100<BR>> From: Michael Herman <<A
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test<BR>><BR>> test test test...<BR>><BR>> *<BR>> *<BR>>
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Jun 2005 09:58:08 +0100<BR>> From: Michael Herman <<A
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test again<BR>><BR>> sorry for this bother. no reply necessary...
thanks. m<BR>><BR>> *<BR>> *<BR>>
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Jun 2005 11:02:04 +0200<BR>> From: Skaparlust <<A
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Subject: Hello from Sweden<BR>><BR>> This is a multi-part message in
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quoted-printable<BR>><BR>><BR>> Hi everyone out there,<BR>> Today
I realized that I had done the ultimate Open Space meeting.<BR>> A unusual
thing about this meeting, was the bed, that was placed towards =<BR>> one
of the walls in the big conference room. I tried it.<BR>> At the end of the
conference I found out that there weren=B4t any =<BR>> reports, which I of
course immediately justified with the comment that =<BR>> they probably
didn=B4t need them anyhow and the participants seemed =<BR>> quite content.
I also realized that there had been no finishing circle. =<BR>>
Odd....=20<BR>> When talking to one of the guys I realized that I had been
sleeping all =<BR>> through the meeting. (The ultimate letting
go!)=20<BR>> Laughing hysterically I told him that I was going to tell
about this on =<BR>> the OS listserve, which I=20<BR>> just now
did. (I am eagerly looking forward to the follow up-meeting, =<BR>>
which hopefully will happen this night.)<BR>><BR>> I wish you a magic
night, all of you who enjoy the longest day of the =<BR>> year!<BR>>
Agneta Falk<BR>> Skaparlust "Joy of creating"<BR>><BR>> Click here:
Toren van beren This link give you an idea of how to =<BR>> transform
hierachies.<BR>><BR>> *<BR>> *<BR>>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">Today I realized that I had
done =<BR>> the ultimate=20<BR>> Open Space meeting.</DIV><BR>>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">A unusual thing about this meeting, was
=<BR>> the=20<BR>> bed, that was placed towards one of
the walls in the big =<BR>> conference=20<BR>> room. I tried
it.</DIV><BR>> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">At the end of
the conference I found out =<BR>> that=20<BR>> there weren=B4t any
reports, which I of course immediately justified =<BR>> with the=20<BR>>
comment that they probably didn=B4t need them anyhow and the =<BR>>
participants seemed=20<BR>> quite content. I also realized that there had
been no finishing circle. =<BR>> Odd....=20<BR>> </DIV><BR>>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">When talking to one of the guys I
=<BR>> realized that I=20<BR>> had been sleeping all through the
meeting. (The ultimate letting=20<BR>> go!) </DIV><BR>>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">Laughing hysterically I told
him =<BR>> that I was=20<BR>> going to tell about this on the OS
listserve, which I </DIV><BR>> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt
arial">just now did. (I am eagerly =<BR>> looking
forward=20<BR>> to the follow up-meeting, which hopefully will happen this
night.)</DIV><BR>> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt
arial"> </DIV><BR>> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt
arial">I wish you a magic night, all of you who =<BR>> enjoy=20<BR>>
the longest day of the year!</DIV><BR>> <DIV
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------------------------------<BR>><BR>> Date: Tue, 21
Jun 2005 10:10:18 +0100<BR>> From: Michael Herman <<A
href="mailto:mjherman@gmail.com">mjherman@gmail.com</A>><BR>> Subject:
Surprise<BR>><BR>> To all Harrison's friends--<BR>><BR>> ***Please
keep this our secret (thanks to a little oslist admin magic,<BR>> Harrison
is not receiving this message)... DO NOT REPLY TO THE LIST<BR>> ABOUT
THIS!***:<BR>><BR>> To celebrate Harrison's upcoming 70th birthday and
Open Space's 20th<BR>> anniversary, we want to give Harrison a gift at
OSonOS 13 in Halifax,<BR>> in the form of your responses to these
questions.<BR>><BR>> 1. How has Harrison or Open
Space touched your life?<BR>><BR>> 2. What
wishes do you have for Harrison as he enters his 8th<BR>> decade? For Open
Space as it enters its 3rd decade?<BR>><BR>> If you feel moved to
contribute, please post your responses at<BR>> <A
href="http://www.footprintsinthewind.com/forum/postlist.php?Board=H70&o=0">http://www.footprintsinthewind.com/forum/postlist.php?Board=H70&o=0</A><BR>><BR>>
If you wish instead to send hard copy, you may send it (to arrive<BR>>
before July 25) to:<BR>><BR>> Harrison's Birthday Celebration<BR>>
c/o Douglas D. Germann, Sr.<BR>> P.O. Box 2796<BR>> South Bend, IN, USA
46680-2796<BR>><BR>> ***Please keep this secret from Harrison, but do
pass it on to other <BR>> friends<BR>> of Harrison who may not be on
this
list.***<BR>><BR>>
The birthday
planners<BR>>
Open Space Institute (US)
Board<BR>>
Kerry Napuk <<A
href="mailto:k@napuk.demon.co.uk">k@napuk.demon.co.uk</A>><BR>>
Michael Herman <<A
href="mailto:mherman@globalchicago.net">mherman@globalchicago.net</A>><BR>>
Gabriel Shirley <<A
href="mailto:gabriel@bigmindconsulting.com">gabriel@bigmindconsulting.com</A>><BR>>
John Engle <<A
href="mailto:john@theexperiment.info">john@theexperiment.info</A>><BR>>
Peggy Holman <<A
href="mailto:usa@openspaceworld.org">usa@openspaceworld.org</A>><BR>>
Mikk Sarv <<A
href="mailto:mikk@ilm.ee">mikk@ilm.ee</A>><BR>>
Lisa <<A
href="mailto:lisaheft@openingspace.net">lisaheft@openingspace.net</A>><BR>>
Karen Davis <<A
href="mailto:kdavis@concentric.net">kdavis@concentric.net</A>><BR>>
Douglas D. Germann, Sr. <<A
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Christine Whitney Sanchez <<A
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Michael M Pannwitz <<A
href="mailto:mmpanne@boscop.de">mmpanne@boscop.de</A>><BR>>
Elwin Guild <<A
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Carol Daniel Kasbari <<A
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href="mailto:averbuch@post.tau.ac.il">averbuch@post.tau.ac.il</A>><BR>>
Tova Averbuch <<A
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Esther Ewing <<A
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Thomas Herrmann <<A
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-- <BR>><BR>> Michael Herman Associates<BR>> <A
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Chicago, July 29-31st!<BR>> <A
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...people making good things happen<BR>><BR>> *<BR>> *<BR>>
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------------------------------<BR>><BR>> Date: Tue, 21
Jun 2005 10:23:34 +0100<BR>> From: Michael Herman <<A
href="mailto:mjherman@gmail.com">mjherman@gmail.com</A>><BR>> Subject:
test again<BR>><BR>> no reply necessary. thanks. m<BR>><BR>>
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Jun 2005 05:16:32 -0600<BR>> From: Masud Sheikh <<A
href="mailto:masheikh@COGECO.CA">masheikh@COGECO.CA</A>><BR>> Subject:
Re: Reflections at 100--# 26<BR>><BR>> On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:08:42
-0400, Douglas D. Germann, Sr.
wrote:<BR>><BR>>>Masud--<BR>>><BR>>>Ummmm, I missed the
doubting Thomas version of the principle about people.<BR>>>Would you
kindly bring me up to date, Masud?
<grin><BR>>><BR>>>
:-Doug.<BR>>>
Who needs to be heard?<BR>>><BR>><BR>> Oh OK Doug,<BR>> At the
risk of ex-communication, let me try one more time:<BR>> First attempt:
Whoever comes are the only people who could have come<BR>> Second attempt:
I may be forgetting the exact words, but it was something<BR>> like "Those
who felt invited, came".<BR>><BR>> Now, the third attempt: Trust the
people who come.<BR>> And now, I am running away. Hope you (all) are doing
well.<BR>> Masud<BR>><BR>> *<BR>> *<BR>>
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------------------------------<BR>><BR>> Date: Tue, 21
Jun 2005 08:17:06 -0400<BR>> From: Harrison Owen <<A
href="mailto:hhowen@comcast.net">hhowen@comcast.net</A>><BR>> Subject:
Re: Desperately seeking...<BR>><BR>> This is a multi-part message in
MIME format.<BR>><BR>>
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quoted-printable<BR>><BR>> Tansformation ? Sounds great -- but what do
you mean?<BR>><BR>> Harrison<BR>> Harrison Owen<BR>> 7808 River
Falls Dr.<BR>> Potomac, MD 20854<BR>> USA<BR>>
301-365-2093<BR>> 207-763-3261 (summer)<BR>> website <A
href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</A><BR>><BR>><BR>>
----- Original Message -----=20<BR>> From: Claudia
Haack=20<BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU=20">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU=20</A><BR>>
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:58 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: Desperately
seeking...<BR>><BR>><BR>> Well, in that case you have just
witnessed a complete transformation. =<BR>> What
Fan?<BR>><BR>> Claudia<BR>> Triune Milagro -
Madison<BR>> 608.288.8315<BR>><BR>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005
17:01:11 -0400 Harrison Owen <<A
href="mailto:hhowen@comcast.net">hhowen@comcast.net</A>> =<BR>>
writes:<BR>> Not to worry! it will work perfect!! Go with
the two concentric =<BR>> circles -- fanning out the rest-- and it will
"seem" like a circle. =<BR>> Above everything else, don't appologize,
explain, justify, -- mortify . =<BR>> Just do it. Would choose this
space ? NO! -- will it work? Definitely. =<BR>> Just make it a circle in
your mind.<BR>><BR>>
Harrison<BR>><BR>><BR>> Harrison
Owen<BR>> 7808 River Falls Dr.<BR>>
Potomac, MD 20854<BR>>
USA<BR>> 301-365-2093<BR>>
207-763-3261 (summer)<BR>> website <A
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----- Original Message -----=20<BR>> From:
Claudia Haack=20<BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU=20">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU=20</A><BR>>
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 2:59 PM<BR>>
Subject: Re: Desperately
seeking...<BR>><BR>><BR>> Thanks, Lisa
for your encouragement to work with what "has been =<BR>> given".
=20<BR>><BR>>
Claudia<BR>><BR>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005
10:32:55 -0700 Lisa Heft =<BR>> <<A
href="mailto:lisaheft@openingspace.net">lisaheft@openingspace.net</A>>
writes:<BR>> Claudia
-=20<BR>><BR>>
=20<BR>><BR>> You wrote about
your upcoming OS with 300 people in a fan-shaped =<BR>>
room:<BR>><BR>> Has anybody
ever had a similar situation? What are your =<BR>> thoughts?
The space appears to be so awkward and unaccommodating for =<BR>> open
space, with stairs and railings, and limited opportunity to =<BR>> actually
create something that resembles circles. Maybe I just worry =<BR>>
too much about the space and the right people will come (and stay?!) and
=<BR>> make a circle? Maybe it is really important to have circles
and =<BR>> "fan-shaped" just isn't going to
work?=20<BR>><BR>>
=20<BR>><BR>> I'm guessing you
tried and tried to get it in another space but =<BR>> this is the one you
have been given.<BR>><BR>>
=20<BR>><BR>> I seem to
remember .Brian Bainbridge, was it? who spoke of a =<BR>> great OS in
a room with theatre seating (chairs attached to the floor) =<BR>> and a
little tiny flat space up front for an agenda wall? And.Bernd =<BR>>
Weber, was it? who spoke of a great OS in a room filled with one
=<BR>> incredibly large table and people seated all around it and not much
=<BR>> additional room?
=20<BR>><BR>>
=20<BR>><BR>> And I myself had
an experience with a room that was actually not =<BR>> a meeting room but
an exhibit hallway, l-o-n-g and narrow. And when I =<BR>> put chairs
in sort of an arc facing a wall (with many 'concentric' rows =<BR>> out to
the sides) the fire marshals came in and said that all my chairs =<BR>> had
to be locked
together.<BR>><BR>>
=20<BR>><BR>> In each of these
cases, the Open Space went beautifully. I am =<BR>> sure in all our
cases we 'fought' like crazy to get a better room, but =<BR>> these were
the rooms we were given. And so I'm sure that in each of our =<BR>>
cases we thought very carefully about the design, and adjusted in the
=<BR>> most creative ways, and carried intention and vision, and imagined
and =<BR>> indicated a circle even when there may not have been one (it
helps to =<BR>> put the signs all around the room and to indicate them as
you explain =<BR>> principles and law to further the circle feeling even in
a long space, I =<BR>> have found).
=20<BR>><BR>>
=20<BR>><BR>> And in each of
these cases, people got themselves to the =<BR>> location that was created
for them to write and announce their topics, =<BR>> they got to wherever
the agenda wall was set up to post their topics, =<BR>> and they held their
discussions all around the room - amazingly, =<BR>> clustering up in little
circles even in locked-down chairs - it's a =<BR>> natural way to converse,
in circles.<BR>><BR>>
=20<BR>><BR>> So I say just do
all the things you know to do, think of the =<BR>> best way possible to use
the space you have, and then enjoy all that =<BR>> Open
Space.<BR>><BR>>
=20<BR>><BR>>
Lisa<BR>><BR>>
=20<BR>><BR>>
___________________________<BR>><BR>>
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Facilitator,
Educator<BR>><BR>> O p e n i n
g S p a c e<BR>><BR>>
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=20<BR>><BR>> -----Original
Message-----<BR>> From: OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf =<BR>> Of Claudia
Haack<BR>> Sent: Monday, June 20,
2005 8:46 AM<BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A><BR>>
Subject: Desperately
seeking...<BR>><BR>>
=20<BR>><BR>>
=20<BR>><BR>> Desperately
seeking.<BR>><BR>>
=20<BR>><BR>> ..a solution to
a space issue.=20<BR>><BR>>
=20<BR>><BR>> Here is the
situation:<BR>><BR>>
=20<BR>><BR>> We are planning
a one day Open Space event for about 300 people. =<BR>>
=20<BR>><BR>> To imagine the
setting - imagine classical ballroom, very large =<BR>> oval, with a
terrace going around the edge. Then divide the room in =<BR>> thirds,
keeping a central almost square area and two fan-shaped edge =<BR>>
rooms. One of which is ours (with a total capacity of 750 people
=<BR>> theatre style) with these
challenges:<BR>><BR>>
=A7 It is shaped like a
fan.<BR>><BR>>
=A7 The "outer" rim of
approximately 44 feed across is =<BR>> about 2 feet higher than the
"inner" fan.<BR>><BR>>
=A7 The "outer" rim is
separated from the lower space =<BR>> by a metal and glass
railing.=20<BR>><BR>>
=A7 While the inner space has
a very high ceiling, the =<BR>> outer/upper space does
not.=20<BR>><BR>> If an open
space of at least 35 to 40 feet is created on the =<BR>> lower part (the
only part where you could create an open space) only =<BR>> about 2
concentric circles can be created accommodating about 120 =<BR>>
people. The remainder of the rows would be only half-circles or
=<BR>> half-ovals, following the shape of the
terrace.=20<BR>><BR>>
=20<BR>><BR>> Has anybody ever
had a similar situation? What are your =<BR>> thoughts? The
space appears to be so awkward and unaccommodating for =<BR>> open space,
with stairs and railings, and limited opportunity to =<BR>> actually create
something that resembles circles. Maybe I just worry =<BR>> too much
about the space and the right people will come (and stay?!) and =<BR>> make
a circle? Maybe it is really important to have circles and =<BR>>
"fan-shaped" just isn't going to
work?=20<BR>><BR>>
=20<BR>><BR>> Thanks for any
suggestions.=20<BR>><BR>>
=20<BR>><BR>>
Claudia<BR>><BR>>
=20<BR>><BR>> Triune Milagro -
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topMargin=3D0 =<BR>> rightMargin=3D3><BR>> <DIV><FONT
face=3DArial>Tansformation ? Sounds great -- but what do you=20<BR>>
mean?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT
face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV><BR>>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Harrison</FONT></DIV><BR>>
<DIV>Harrison Owen<BR>7808 River Falls Dr.<BR>Potomac,
MD =20<BR>>
20854<BR>USA<BR>301-365-2093<BR>207-763-3261
(summer)<BR>website <A=20<BR>> href=3D"<A
href='http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</A></DIV'>http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</A></DIV</A>><BR>>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>> <BLOCKQUOTE=20<BR>>
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =<BR>>
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV
style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
</DIV><BR>> <DIV=20<BR>> style=3D"BACKGROUND:
#e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =<BR>>
black"><B>From:</B>=20<BR>> <A <A
href="mailto:title=3Dclaudiahb@juno.com">title=3Dclaudiahb@juno.com</A>
=<BR>> href=3D"<A
href='mailto:claudiahb@juno.com">Claudia'>mailto:claudiahb@juno.com">Claudia</A>
Haack</A>=20<BR>> </DIV><BR>> <DIV
style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20<BR>> <A
href="mailto:title=3DOSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU=20">title=3DOSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU=20</A><BR>>
=<BR>> href=3D"<A
href='mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE'>mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE</A>=<BR>>
.EDU</A>=20<BR>> </DIV><BR>> <DIV
style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 20, 2005
=<BR>> 5:58 PM</DIV><BR>> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt
arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Desperately =<BR>>
seeking...</DIV><BR>>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>> <DIV>Well, in that case
you have just witnessed a complete=20<BR>> transformation.
What Fan?</DIV><BR>>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>>
<DIV>Claudia</DIV><BR>> <DIV>Triune Milagro -
Madison</DIV><BR>>
<DIV>608.288.8315</DIV><BR>>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>> <DIV>On Mon, 20 Jun 2005
17:01:11 -0400 Harrison Owen <<A=20<BR>> href=3D"<A
href='mailto:hhowen@comcast.net">hhowen@comcast.net</A>>'>mailto:hhowen@comcast.net">hhowen@comcast.net</A>></A>;
=<BR>> writes:</DIV><BR>> <BLOCKQUOTE
dir=3Dltr=20<BR>> style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 10px; MARGIN-LEFT: 10px;
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =<BR>> 2px solid"><BR>>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Not to worry! it will work perfect!! Go
with =<BR>> the two=20<BR>> concentric circles --
fanning out the rest-- and it will "seem" like =<BR>>
a=20<BR>> circle. Above everything else, don't
appologize, explain, =<BR>> justify,
--=20<BR>> mortify . Just do it. Would choose this space
? NO! -- will it work? =<BR>><BR>> Definitely. Just
make it a circle in your
mind.</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT
face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV><BR>>
<DIV><FONT
face=3DArial>Harrison</FONT></DIV><BR>>
<DIV><FONT
face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV><BR>>
<DIV><FONT
face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV><BR>>
<DIV>Harrison Owen<BR>7808 River Falls Dr.<BR>Potomac,
MD =20<BR>>
20854<BR>USA<BR>301-365-2093<BR>207-763-3261
(summer)<BR>website <A=20<BR>> =<BR>>
href=3D"<A
href='http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</A></DIV'>http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</A></DIV</A>><BR>>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20<BR>> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;
PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =<BR>> BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid;
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV
style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =<BR>>
</DIV><BR>>
<DIV=20<BR>> style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4;
FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =<BR>>
black"><B>From:</B>=20<BR>>
<A <A
href="mailto:title=3Dclaudiahb@juno.com">title=3Dclaudiahb@juno.com</A>
=<BR>> href=3D"<A
href='mailto:claudiahb@juno.com">Claudia=20'>mailto:claudiahb@juno.com">Claudia=20</A><BR>>
Haack</A> </DIV><BR>> <DIV
style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B>
<A=20<BR>> <A
href="mailto:title=3DOSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU=20">title=3DOSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU=20</A><BR>>
=<BR>> href=3D"<A
href='mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE'>mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE</A>=<BR>>
.EDU</A>=20<BR>>
</DIV><BR>> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt
arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 20, 2005 =<BR>>
2:59=20<BR>>
PM</DIV><BR>> <DIV style=3D"FONT:
10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re:
Desperately=20<BR>>
seeking...</DIV><BR>>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>>
<DIV>Thanks, Lisa for your encouragement to work with what "has
=<BR>> been=20<BR>> given".
</DIV><BR>>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>>
<DIV>Claudia</DIV><BR>>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>>
<DIV>On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:32:55 -0700 Lisa Heft
<<A=20<BR>> =<BR>> href=3D"<A
href='mailto:lisaheft@openingspace.net">lisaheft@openingspace.net</A>&g'>mailto:lisaheft@openingspace.net">lisaheft@openingspace.net</A>&g</A>=<BR>>
t;=20<BR>>
writes:</DIV><BR>> <BLOCKQUOTE
dir=3Dltr=20<BR>> style=3D"PADDING-LEFT:
10px; MARGIN-LEFT: 10px; BORDER-LEFT: =<BR>> #000000 2px
solid"><BR>> <DIV
class=3DSection1><BR>> <P
class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack =<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'">Claudia=20<BR>> =96
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'">You=20<BR>> wrote about
your upcoming OS with 300 people in a
fan-shaped=20<BR>>
room:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:
0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =<BR>>
12pt">Has anybody=20<BR>> ever
had a similar situation?<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =<BR>>
yes"> =20<BR>>
</SPAN>What are your thoughts?<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =<BR>>
yes"> =20<BR>>
</SPAN>The space appears to be so awkward and unaccommodating =<BR>>
for open=20<BR>> space, with
stairs and railings, and limited opportunity to =<BR>>
actually=20<BR>> create something
that resembles
circles.<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Maybe I just worry too
=<BR>> much=20<BR>> about the
space and the right people will come (and stay?!) and =<BR>> make
a=20<BR>> circle?<SPAN
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Maybe it =<BR>> is
really=20<BR>> important to have
circles and =93fan-shaped=94 just isn=92t =<BR>> going to
work?=20<BR>>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'">I=92m=20<BR>> guessing
you tried and tried to get it in another space but this =<BR>> is
the=20<BR>> one you have been
given.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'">I=20<BR>> seem to
remember =85Brian Bainbridge, was
it?<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN =<BR>>
class=3DGramE>who</SPAN>=20<BR>>
spoke of a great OS in a room with theatre seating (chairs =<BR>> attached
to=20<BR>> the floor) and a
little tiny flat space up front for an
agenda=20<BR>> wall?<SPAN
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And=85Bernd =<BR>>
<SPAN=20<BR>>
class=3DGramE>Weber,</SPAN> was it?<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun:
=<BR>>
yes"> =20<BR>>
</SPAN><SPAN class=3DGramE>who</SPAN> spoke of a great OS in
a =<BR>> room filled=20<BR>>
with one incredibly large table and people seated all around it =<BR>> and
not=20<BR>> much additional room?
<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: =<BR>>
yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'">And I=20<BR>> myself had
an experience with a room that was actually not a =<BR>>
meeting=20<BR>> room but an
exhibit hallway, l-o-n-g and
narrow.<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And when I put chairs
=<BR>> in sort of=20<BR>> an
arc facing a wall (with many =91concentric=92 rows out to the =<BR>> sides)
the=20<BR>> fire marshals came in
and said that all my chairs had to be =<BR>>
locked=20<BR>>
together.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'">In=20<BR>> each of these
cases, the Open Space went beautifully.
<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I am sure in all our
=<BR>> cases we=20<BR>>
=91fought=92 like crazy to get a better room, but these were the =<BR>>
rooms we=20<BR>> were
given.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And
=<BR>> so I=92m sure=20<BR>>
that in each of our cases we thought very carefully about the =<BR>>
design,=20<BR>> and adjusted in
the most creative ways, and carried intention =<BR>>
and=20<BR>> vision, and imagined
and indicated a circle even when there may =<BR>> not
have=20<BR>> been one (it helps
to put the signs all around the room and to =<BR>>
indicate=20<BR>> them as you
explain principles and law to further the circle =<BR>>
feeling=20<BR>> even in a long
space, I have found).
<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: =<BR>>
yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'">And=20<BR>> in each of
these cases, people got themselves to the location =<BR>> that
was=20<BR>> created for them to
write and announce their topics, they got to
=<BR>><BR>> wherever the
agenda wall was set up to post their topics, and =<BR>> they
held=20<BR>> their discussions
all around the room =96 amazingly, clustering =<BR>> up
in=20<BR>> little circles even in
locked-down chairs =96 it=92s a natural =<BR>> way
to=20<BR>> converse, in
circles.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'">So I=20<BR>> say just do
all the things you know to do, think of the best way
=<BR>><BR>> possible to use
the space you have, and then enjoy all that Open
=<BR>><BR>>
Space=85<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'">Lisa<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
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=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
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class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack =<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>> MS';
mso-no-proof:
yes">___________________________</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20<BR>>
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-no-proof: =<BR>>
yes"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
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size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
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Facilitator,
Educator<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
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Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =<BR>>
bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20<BR>>
OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]
<B><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>Claudia=20<BR>>
Haack<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:
bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> =<BR>>
Monday,=20<BR>> June 20, 2005
8:46
AM<BR><B><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:
bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20<BR>>
<A
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN=20">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN=20</A><BR>>
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
Desperately=20<BR>>
seeking...</SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:
0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman"
size=3D3><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE:
12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<DIV><BR>> <P
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:
0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman"
size=3D3><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =<BR>>
12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><BR>>
<DIV><BR>> <P
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:
0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =<BR>>
12pt">Desperately=20<BR>>
seeking=85<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:
0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman"
size=3D3><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE:
12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:
0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =<BR>>
12pt">=85.a solution=20<BR>>
to a space issue.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:
0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman"
size=3D3><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE:
12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:
0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =<BR>>
12pt">Here is the=20<BR>>
situation:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:
0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman"
size=3D3><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE:
12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:
0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =<BR>>
12pt">We are=20<BR>> planning
a one day Open Space event for about 300
people.<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =<BR>>
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:
0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =<BR>>
12pt">To imagine=20<BR>> the
setting =96 imagine classical ballroom, very large oval, =<BR>> with
a=20<BR>> terrace going around
the edge. <SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Then divide the room in
=<BR>> thirds,=20<BR>> keeping
a central almost square area and two fan-shaped edge =<BR>>
rooms.<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>One of which is ours
=<BR>> (with a=20<BR>> total
capacity of<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =<BR>>
</SPAN>750=20<BR>> people
theatre style) with these=20<BR>>
challenges:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20<BR>>
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 =<BR>> level1
lfo1; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><![if
!supportLists]><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3DWingdings
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; =<BR>>
mso-fareast-font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; =<BR>>
mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings"><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">=A7<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =<BR>>
size=3D1><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =<BR>>
Roman'"> =20<BR>>
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]>It
is shaped like a =<BR>><BR>>
fan.<o:p></o:p></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20<BR>>
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 =<BR>> level1
lfo1; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><![if
!supportLists]><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3DWingdings
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; =<BR>>
mso-fareast-font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; =<BR>>
mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings"><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">=A7<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =<BR>>
size=3D1><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =<BR>>
Roman'"> =20<BR>>
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]>The
=93outer=94 rim =<BR>>
of=20<BR>> approximately 44 feed
across is about 2<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>feet higher than the
=<BR>> =93inner=94=20<BR>>
fan.<o:p></o:p></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20<BR>>
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 =<BR>> level1
lfo1; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><![if
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face=3DWingdings
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; =<BR>>
mso-fareast-font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; =<BR>>
mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings"><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">=A7<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =<BR>>
size=3D1><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =<BR>>
Roman'"> =20<BR>>
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]>The
=93outer=94 rim =<BR>>
is=20<BR>> separated<SPAN
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>from =<BR>> the
lower=20<BR>> space by a metal
and glass railing.
<o:p></o:p></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20<BR>>
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 =<BR>> level1
lfo1; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><![if
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face=3DWingdings
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; =<BR>>
mso-fareast-font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; =<BR>>
mso-bidi-font-family:
Wingdings"><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">=A7<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =<BR>>
size=3D1><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =<BR>>
Roman'"> =20<BR>>
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]>While
the inner =<BR>> space has
a=20<BR>> very high ceiling, the
outer/upper space does not. =<BR>>
<o:p></o:p></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:
0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =<BR>>
12pt">If an open=20<BR>> space
of at least 35 to 40 feet is created on the lower part =<BR>> (the
only=20<BR>> part where you could
create an open space) only about 2 =<BR>>
concentric=20<BR>> circles can be
created accommodating about 120
people.<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The remainder of the
=<BR>> rows would=20<BR>> be
only half-circles or half-ovals, following the shape of the =<BR>>
terrace.=20<BR>>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:
0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman"
size=3D3><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE:
12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:
0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =<BR>>
12pt">Has anybody=20<BR>> ever
had a similar situation?<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =<BR>>
yes"> =20<BR>>
</SPAN>What are your thoughts?<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =<BR>>
yes"> =20<BR>>
</SPAN>The space appears to be so awkward and unaccommodating =<BR>>
for open=20<BR>> space, with
stairs and railings, and limited opportunity to =<BR>>
actually=20<BR>> create something
that resembles
circles.<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Maybe I just worry too
=<BR>> much=20<BR>> about the
space and the right people will come (and stay?!) and =<BR>> make
a=20<BR>> circle?<SPAN
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Maybe it =<BR>> is
really=20<BR>> important to have
circles and =93fan-shaped=94 just isn=92t =<BR>> going to
work?=20<BR>>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:
0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman"
size=3D3><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE:
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:
0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =<BR>>
12pt">Thanks for=20<BR>> any
suggestions.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
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------------------------------<BR>><BR>> Date: Tue, 21
Jun 2005 06:31:12 -0700<BR>> From: Therese Fitzpatrick
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Subject: Re: leverage points<BR>><BR>> Here is the sentence from your
post that gave me the impression you<BR>> thought 'the RIGHT people" is
judgmental, Paul:<BR>><BR>> I find the word 'RIGHT" judgmental rather
than value neutral. If we say<BR>> instead "those who felt invited", that
says something about both the<BR>> host/s and the
invitee/s.<BR>><BR>><BR>> Paul, maybe you were quoting Masud?
Now that I have reviewed your<BR>> email from yesterday, I see that I
attributed Masud's words to you.<BR>> Would you like me to apologize to the
list? Or is this clarification<BR>> what you sought from
me?<BR>><BR>> My apologies. I see now that Masud stated that the
word 'right' is<BR>> judgmental . . . and he did so quite awhile
back.<BR>><BR>> *<BR>> *<BR>>
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Jun 2005 15:46:34 +0200<BR>> From: Eva P Svensson <<A
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the smile =96 because that was what I did when I read =<BR>> your<BR>>
post. I can just imagine you lying on the bed sleeping! As you said
the<BR>> ultimate letting go =96 you have something to teach me
there!<BR>><BR>> Best wishes to you as well from a thunder storming
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=C4mne: Hello from Sweden<BR>><BR>> =20<BR>><BR>>
=20<BR>><BR>> Hi everyone out there,<BR>><BR>> Today I realized
that I had done the ultimate Open Space meeting.<BR>><BR>> A unusual
thing about this meeting, was the bed, that was placed towards =<BR>>
one<BR>> of the walls in the big conference room. I tried
it.<BR>><BR>> At the end of the conference I found out that there
weren=B4t any =<BR>> reports,<BR>> which I of course immediately
justified with the comment that they =<BR>> probably<BR>> didn=B4t need
them anyhow and the participants seemed quite content. I =<BR>>
also<BR>> realized that there had been no finishing circle.
Odd....=20<BR>><BR>> When talking to one of the guys I realized that I
had been sleeping all<BR>> through the meeting. (The ultimate letting
go!)=20<BR>><BR>> Laughing hysterically I told him that I was going to
tell about this on =<BR>> the<BR>> OS listserve, which
I=20<BR>><BR>> just now did. (I am eagerly looking forward to the
follow up-meeting, =<BR>> which<BR>> hopefully will happen this
night.)<BR>><BR>> =20<BR>><BR>> I wish you a magic night, all of
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</span></b>Skaparlust<br><BR>> <b><span
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Hello from =<BR>>
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class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
=<BR>> style=3D'font-size:<BR>>
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Today I realized that I had
=<BR>> done the<BR>> ultimate Open Space
meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><BR>><BR>>
</div><BR>><BR>> <div><BR>><BR>> <p
class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
=<BR>> style=3D'font-size:<BR>>
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>A unusual thing about this =<BR>>
meeting, was<BR>> the bed, that was placed towards one of
the walls in the big<BR>> conference room. I tried
it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><BR>><BR>>
</div><BR>><BR>> <div><BR>><BR>> <p
class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
=<BR>> style=3D'font-size:<BR>>
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>At the end of the conference I
=<BR>> found out<BR>> that there weren=B4t any reports, which I of
course immediately =<BR>> justified with<BR>> the comment that they
probably didn=B4t need them anyhow and the =<BR>> participants<BR>>
seemed quite content. I also realized that there had been no finishing
=<BR>> circle.<BR>> Odd....
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><BR>><BR>>
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class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
=<BR>> style=3D'font-size:<BR>>
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>When talking to one of the guys
I<BR>> realized that I had been sleeping all through the meeting. (The
ultimate<BR>> letting
go!) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><BR>><BR>>
</div><BR>><BR>> <div><BR>><BR>> <p
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=<BR>> style=3D'font-size:<BR>>
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=<BR>> him that<BR>> I was going to tell about this on the OS listserve,
which I =<BR>>
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will happen this =<BR>>
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=<BR>> you who<BR>> enjoy the longest day of the
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here: Toren van =<BR>> beren</a> <BR>> This link give you
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------------------------------<BR>><BR>> Date: Tue, 21
Jun 2005 07:50:25 -0500<BR>> From: Claudia Haack <<A
href="mailto:claudiahb@juno.com">claudiahb@juno.com</A>><BR>> Subject:
Re: Desperately seeking...<BR>><BR>> This message is in MIME
format. Since your mail reader does not <BR>> understand<BR>> this
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Harrison,<BR>><BR>> You wrote:<BR>> Just make it a circle in your
mind.<BR>><BR>> And so I did. The image in my mind transformed
from an awkward,<BR>> two-level fan shape to a circle that will be perfect
for opening the<BR>> space for 300 attendees. Your assurances have
greatly relieved our<BR>> clients, as well as Christine and myself.<BR>>
Thanks, Claudia<BR>><BR>> On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:17:06 -0400 Harrison
Owen <<A
href="mailto:hhowen@comcast.net">hhowen@comcast.net</A>><BR>>
writes:<BR>> Tansformation ? Sounds great -- but what do you
mean?<BR>><BR>> Harrison<BR>> Harrison Owen<BR>> 7808 River Falls
Dr.<BR>> Potomac, MD 20854<BR>> USA<BR>> 301-365-2093<BR>>
207-763-3261 (summer)<BR>>website <A
href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</A><BR>><BR>><BR>>
----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: Claudia Haack<BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A><BR>>
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:58 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: Desperately
seeking...<BR>><BR>><BR>> Well, in that case you have just witnessed
a complete transformation.<BR>> What Fan?<BR>><BR>> Claudia<BR>>
Triune Milagro - Madison<BR>> 608.288.8315<BR>><BR>> On Mon, 20 Jun
2005 17:01:11 -0400 Harrison Owen <<A
href="mailto:hhowen@comcast.net">hhowen@comcast.net</A>><BR>>
writes:<BR>> Not to worry! it will work perfect!! Go with the two
concentric circles<BR>> -- fanning out the rest-- and it will "seem" like a
circle. Above<BR>> everything else, don't appologize, explain,
justify, -- mortify . Just<BR>> do it. Would choose this space ? NO!
-- will it work? Definitely. Just<BR>> make it a circle in your
mind.<BR>><BR>> Harrison<BR>><BR>><BR>> Harrison Owen<BR>>
7808 River Falls Dr.<BR>> Potomac, MD 20854<BR>> USA<BR>>
301-365-2093<BR>> 207-763-3261 (summer)<BR>> website <A
href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</A><BR>><BR>><BR>>
----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: Claudia Haack<BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A><BR>>
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 2:59 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: Desperately
seeking...<BR>><BR>><BR>> Thanks, Lisa for your encouragement to work
with what "has been given".<BR>><BR>> Claudia<BR>><BR>> On Mon, 20
Jun 2005 10:32:55 -0700 Lisa Heft <<A
href="mailto:lisaheft@openingspace.net">lisaheft@openingspace.net</A>><BR>>
writes:<BR>> Claudia -<BR>><BR>> You wrote about your upcoming OS
with 300 people in a fan-shaped room:<BR>> Has anybody ever had a similar
situation? What are your thoughts? The<BR>> space appears to be
so awkward and unaccommodating for open space, with<BR>> stairs and
railings, and limited opportunity to actually create something<BR>> that
resembles circles. Maybe I just worry too much about the space
and<BR>> the right people will come (and stay?!) and make a circle?
Maybe it is<BR>> really important to have circles and "fan-shaped" just
isn't going to<BR>> work?<BR>><BR>> I'm guessing you tried and tried
to get it in another space but this is<BR>> the one you have been
given.<BR>><BR>> I seem to remember .Brian Bainbridge, was it? who
spoke of a great OS in<BR>> a room with theatre seating (chairs attached to
the floor) and a little<BR>> tiny flat space up front for an agenda
wall? And.Bernd Weber, was it?<BR>> who spoke of a great OS in a room
filled with one incredibly large table<BR>> and people seated all around it
and not much additional room?<BR>><BR>> And I myself had an experience
with a room that was actually not a<BR>> meeting room but an exhibit
hallway, l-o-n-g and narrow. And when I put<BR>> chairs in sort of an
arc facing a wall (with many 'concentric' rows out<BR>> to the sides) the
fire marshals came in and said that all my chairs had<BR>> to be locked
together.<BR>><BR>> In each of these cases, the Open Space went
beautifully. I am sure in<BR>> all our cases we 'fought' like crazy
to get a better room, but these were<BR>> the rooms we were given.
And so I'm sure that in each of our cases we<BR>> thought very carefully
about the design, and adjusted in the most<BR>> creative ways, and carried
intention and vision, and imagined and<BR>> indicated a circle even when
there may not have been one (it helps to put<BR>> the signs all around the
room and to indicate them as you explain<BR>> principles and law to further
the circle feeling even in a long space, I<BR>> have
found).<BR>><BR>> And in each of these cases, people got themselves to
the location that<BR>> was created for them to write and announce their
topics, they got to<BR>> wherever the agenda wall was set up to post their
topics, and they held<BR>> their discussions all around the room -
amazingly, clustering up in<BR>> little circles even in locked-down chairs
- it's a natural way to<BR>> converse, in circles.<BR>><BR>> So I say
just do all the things you know to do, think of the best way<BR>> possible
to use the space you have, and then enjoy all that Open Space.<BR>><BR>>
Lisa<BR>><BR>> ___________________________<BR>> L i s a H
e f t<BR>> Consultant, Facilitator, Educator<BR>> O p e n i n g S
p a c e<BR>> 2325 Oregon<BR>> Berkeley, California<BR>>
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[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Claudia<BR>>
Haack<BR>> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:46 AM<BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A><BR>>
Subject: Desperately seeking...<BR>><BR>><BR>> Desperately
seeking.<BR>><BR>> ..a solution to a space issue.<BR>><BR>> Here
is the situation:<BR>><BR>> We are planning a one day Open Space event
for about 300 people.<BR>> To imagine the setting - imagine classical
ballroom, very large oval,<BR>> with a terrace going around the edge.
Then divide the room in thirds,<BR>> keeping a central almost square area
and two fan-shaped edge rooms. One<BR>> of which is ours (with a
total capacity of 750 people theatre style)<BR>> with these
challenges:<BR>> § It is
shaped like a fan.<BR>> §
The "outer" rim of approximately 44 feed across is about 2<BR>> feet higher
than the "inner" fan.<BR>>
§ The "outer" rim is
separated from the lower space by a metal<BR>> and glass
railing.<BR>> § While the
inner space has a very high ceiling, the outer/upper<BR>> space does
not.<BR>> If an open space of at least 35 to 40 feet is created on the
lower part<BR>> (the only part where you could create an open space) only
about 2<BR>> concentric circles can be created accommodating about 120
people. The<BR>> remainder of the rows would be only half-circles or
half-ovals, following<BR>> the shape of the terrace.<BR>><BR>> Has
anybody ever had a similar situation? What are your thoughts?
The<BR>> space appears to be so awkward and unaccommodating for open space,
with<BR>> stairs and railings, and limited opportunity to actually create
something<BR>> that resembles circles. Maybe I just worry too much
about the space and<BR>> the right people will come (and stay?!) and make a
circle? Maybe it is<BR>> really important to have circles and
"fan-shaped" just isn't going to<BR>> work?<BR>><BR>> Thanks for any
suggestions.<BR>><BR>> Claudia<BR>><BR>> Triune Milagro -
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<BR>> rightMargin=3D3><BR>> <DIV>Harrison, </DIV><BR>>
<DIV><FONT
face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV><BR>> <DIV>You
wrote:</DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Just make it a
circle in your mind.</FONT></DIV><BR>>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>> <DIV>And so I did.
The image in my mind transformed from an <BR>> awkward,=<BR>>
=20<BR>> two-level fan shape to a circle that will be perfect for opening
the space <BR>> =<BR>> for=20<BR>> 300 attendees. Your
assurances have greatly relieved our clients, as <BR>> =<BR>>
well=20<BR>> as Christine and myself.</DIV><BR>>
<DIV>Thanks, Claudia</DIV><BR>>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>> <DIV>On Tue, 21 Jun 2005
08:17:06 -0400 Harrison Owen <<A=20<BR>> href=3D"<A
href='mailto:hhowen@comcast.net">hhowen@comcast.net</A>>'>mailto:hhowen@comcast.net">hhowen@comcast.net</A>></A>;
<BR>> writes:</DIV><BR>> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20<BR>>
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 10px; MARGIN-LEFT: 10px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px
=<BR>> solid"><BR>> <DIV><FONT
face=3DArial>Tansformation ? Sounds great -- but what do <BR>>
you=20<BR>> mean?</FONT></DIV><BR>>
<DIV><FONT
face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV><BR>>
<DIV><FONT
face=3DArial>Harrison</FONT></DIV><BR>>
<DIV>Harrison Owen<BR>7808 River Falls Dr.<BR>Potomac,
MD =20<BR>>
20854<BR>USA<BR>301-365-2093<BR>207-763-3261
(summer)<BR>website <A=20<BR>> href=3D"<A
href='http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</A></DIV'>http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</A></DIV</A>><BR>>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20<BR>> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT:
5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; <BR>> BORDER-=<BR>> LEFT: #000000 2px solid;
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt
arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV><BR>>
<DIV=20<BR>> style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt
arial; font-color: black"><B>=<BR>>
From:</B>=20<BR>> <A <A
href="mailto:title=3Dclaudiahb@juno.com">title=3Dclaudiahb@juno.com</A>
href=3D"<A
href="mailto:claudiahb@juno.com">mailto:claudiahb@juno.com</A>">=<BR>>
Claudia=20<BR>> Haack</A>
</DIV><BR>> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt
arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20<BR>> <A
href="mailto:title=3DOSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU=20">title=3DOSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU=20</A><BR>>
href=3D"<A
href='mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV'>mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV</A>.=<BR>>
BOISESTATE.EDU</A>=20<BR>>
</DIV><BR>> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt
arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 20, 2005 <BR>>
5:58=<BR>> =20<BR>>
PM</DIV><BR>> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt
arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re:
Desperately=20<BR>>
seeking...</DIV><BR>>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>> <DIV>Well,
in that case you have just witnessed a complete=20<BR>>
transformation. What Fan?</DIV><BR>>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>>
<DIV>Claudia</DIV><BR>> <DIV>Triune
Milagro - Madison</DIV><BR>>
<DIV>608.288.8315</DIV><BR>>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>> <DIV>On Mon,
20 Jun 2005 17:01:11 -0400 Harrison Owen
<<A=20<BR>> href=3D"<A
href='mailto:hhowen@comcast.net">hhowen@comcast.net</A>>'>mailto:hhowen@comcast.net">hhowen@comcast.net</A>></A>;
<BR>> writes:</=<BR>> DIV><BR>>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20<BR>> style=3D"PADDING-LEFT:
10px; MARGIN-LEFT: 10px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =<BR>> 2px
solid"><BR>> <DIV><FONT
face=3DArial>Not to worry! it will work perfect!! Go with <BR>>
=<BR>> the two=20<BR>> concentric circles
-- fanning out the rest-- and it will "seem" like <BR>> =<BR>>
a=20<BR>> circle. Above everything else,
don't appologize, explain, justify,&=<BR>>
nbsp;=20<BR>> -- mortify . Just do it. Would
choose this space ? NO! -- will it =<BR>>
work?=20<BR>> Definitely. Just make it a
circle in your
mind.</FONT></DIV><BR>>
<DIV><FONT
face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV><BR>>
<DIV><FONT
face=3DArial>Harrison</FONT></DIV><BR>>
<DIV><FONT
face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV><BR>>
<DIV><FONT
face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV><BR>>
<DIV>Harrison Owen<BR>7808 River Falls Dr.<BR>Potomac,
MD =20<BR>>
20854<BR>USA<BR>301-365-2093<BR>207-763-3261
(summer)<BR>website <BR>>
<A=20<BR>> href=3D"<A
href='http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</A></'>http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</A></</A>=<BR>>
DIV><BR>>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20<BR>>
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =<BR>>
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT:
0px"><BR>> <DIV
style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
</DIV><BR>>
<DIV=20<BR>>
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: <BR>>
black">=<BR>>
<B>From:</B>=20<BR>>
<A <A
href="mailto:title=3Dclaudiahb@juno.com">title=3Dclaudiahb@juno.com</A>
href=3D"<A
href="mailto:claudiahb@juno.com">mailto:claudiahb@juno.com</A>">=<BR>>
Claudia=20<BR>> Haack</A>
</DIV><BR>> <DIV
style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B>
<A=20<BR>> <A
href="mailto:title=3DOSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU=20">title=3DOSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU=20</A><BR>>
href=3D"<A
href='mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV'>mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV</A>.=<BR>>
BOISESTATE.EDU</A>=20<BR>>
</DIV><BR>> <DIV
style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 20, 2005
<BR>> =<BR>> 2:59=20<BR>>
PM</DIV><BR>> <DIV
style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re:
Desperately=20<BR>>
seeking...</DIV><BR>>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>>
<DIV>Thanks, Lisa for your encouragement to work with what "has
=<BR>> been=20<BR>>
given".
</DIV><BR>>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>>
<DIV>Claudia</DIV><BR>>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>>
<DIV>On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:32:55 -0700 Lisa Heft
<<A=20<BR>> <BR>> href=3D"<A
href='mailto:lisaheft@openingspace.net">lisaheft@openingspace.net'>mailto:lisaheft@openingspace.net">lisaheft@openingspace.net</A>=<BR>>
</A>>=20<BR>>
writes:</DIV><BR>>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20<BR>>
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 10px; MARGIN-LEFT: 10px; BORDER-LEFT: #=<BR>> 000000
2px solid"><BR>>
<DIV
class=3DSection1><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'">Claudia=20<BR>>
=96
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'">You=20<BR>>
wrote about your upcoming OS with 300 people in a
fan-shaped=20<BR>>
room:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:
0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: <BR>>
12pt"=<BR>>>Has=20<BR>>
anybody ever had a similar
situation?<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What are your <BR>>
thoughts?=<BR>>
<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The space appears to
<BR>> be=<BR>>
so=20<BR>> awkward
and unaccommodating for open space, with stairs and =<BR>>
railings,=20<BR>> and
limited opportunity to actually create something that =<BR>>
resembles=20<BR>>
circles.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Maybe
I =<BR>>
just=20<BR>> worry
too much about the space and the right people will come (=<BR>>
and=20<BR>> stay?!)
and make a circle?<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: <BR>>
yes"> =<BR>>
;=20<BR>>
</SPAN>Maybe it is really important to have circles and =93fan-=<BR>>
shaped=94=20<BR>>
just isn=92t going to work?
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'">I=92m=20<BR>>
guessing you tried and tried to get it in another space but this <BR>>
=<BR>> is=20<BR>>
the one you have been
given.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'">I=20<BR>>
seem to remember =85Brian Bainbridge, was
it?<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN <BR>>
class=3DGramE>who=<BR>>
</SPAN>=20<BR>>
spoke of a great OS in a room with theatre seating (chairs =<BR>> attached
to=20<BR>> the floor)
and a little tiny flat space up front for an
agenda=20<BR>>
wall?<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>And=85Bernd <BR>> =<BR>>
<SPAN=20<BR>>
class=3DGramE>Weber,</SPAN> was
it?<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN <BR>>
class=3DGramE>who=<BR>>
</SPAN>=20<BR>>
spoke of a great OS in a room filled with one incredibly large =<BR>>
table=20<BR>> and
people seated all around it and not much additional room? <=<BR>>
SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: <BR>>
yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT=<BR>>></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'">And=20<BR>> I
myself had an experience with a room that was actually not a =<BR>>
meeting=20<BR>> room
but an exhibit hallway, l-o-n-g and
narrow.<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And when I put chairs
=<BR>> in
sort=20<BR>> of an
arc facing a wall (with many =91concentric=92 rows out to =<BR>> the
sides)=20<BR>> the
fire marshals came in and said that all my chairs had to be =<BR>>
locked=20<BR>>
together.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'">In=20<BR>>
each of these cases, the Open Space went beautifully.
<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I am sure in all our
=<BR>> cases
we=20<BR>>
=91fought=92 like crazy to get a better room, but these were the <BR>>
=<BR>> rooms
we=20<BR>> were
given.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And
<BR>> so=<BR>>
I=92m=20<BR>> sure
that in each of our cases we thought very carefully about =<BR>>
the=20<BR>> design,
and adjusted in the most creative ways, and carried =<BR>>
intention=20<BR>> and
vision, and imagined and indicated a circle even when there =<BR>>
may=20<BR>> not have
been one (it helps to put the signs all around the room <BR>> =<BR>>
and=20<BR>> to
indicate them as you explain principles and law to further <BR>>
the=<BR>> =20<BR>>
circle feeling even in a long space, I have found).
<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: <BR>>
yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN>=<BR>>
</FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'">And=20<BR>>
in each of these cases, people got themselves to the location =<BR>> that
was=20<BR>> created
for them to write and announce their topics, they got to=<BR>>
=20<BR>> wherever the
agenda wall was set up to post their topics, and =<BR>>
they=20<BR>> held
their discussions all around the room =96 amazingly, =<BR>> clustering
up=20<BR>> in little
circles even in locked-down chairs =96 it=92s a <BR>> natural=<BR>> way
to=20<BR>> converse,
in
circles.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'">So=20<BR>> I
say just do all the things you know to do, think of the best =<BR>>
way=20<BR>> possible
to use the space you have, and then enjoy all that Open=<BR>>
=20<BR>>
Space=85<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'">Lisa<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<DIV><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>> MS';
mso-no-proof:
yes">___________________________</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20<BR>>
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-no-proof:
yes"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></=<BR>>
FONT></P><BR>>
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normal"><=<BR>>
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face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblue
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-=<BR>>
FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; mso-no-proof: yes; mso-bidi-font-weight: <BR>>
normal">L=<BR>>
=20<BR>> i s
a<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>H e
f=<BR>> =20<BR>>
t<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblue
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet <BR>>
MS=<BR>> '; mso-no-proof:
yes">Consultant,=20<BR>>
Facilitator,
Educator<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblue
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>> MS';
mso-no-proof:
yes">2325=20<BR>>
Oregon<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>> MS';
mso-no-proof:
yes">Berkeley,=20<BR>>
California<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>> MS';
mso-no-proof:
yes">94705-1106<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun:
yes"> =20<BR>>
</SPAN>USA<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>> MS';
mso-no-proof:
yes">+01=20<BR>>
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548-8449<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>> MS';
mso-no-proof:
yes"><A=20<BR>>
href=3D"<A
href='mailto:lisaheft@openingspace.net"><FONT'>mailto:lisaheft@openingspace.net"><FONT</A>
color=3Dblack><=<BR>>
SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"COLOR: <BR>>
black">lisaheft@openingspace.net</SPAN></FONT></A=<BR>>></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20<BR>>
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-no-proof:
yes"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></=<BR>>
FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>> MS';
mso-no-proof:
yes"><A=20<BR>>
href=3D"<A
href='http://www.openingspace.net"><FONT'>http://www.openingspace.net"><FONT</A>
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"COLOR:
black">www.openingspace.net</SPAN></FONT></A>=20<BR>>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3Dblack
=<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =<BR>>
MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT
face=3D=<BR>>
Tahoma=20<BR>>
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
Tahoma">-----Original=20<BR>>
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: <BR>>
bold">From:</SPAN>=<BR>>
</B>=20<BR>>
OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]
<B><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>Claudia=20<BR>>
Haack<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:
bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> =<BR>>
Monday,=20<BR>> June
20, 2005 8:46
AM<BR><B><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:
bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20<BR>>
<A
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN=20">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN=20</A><BR>>
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size=3D3><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE:
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seeking=85<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
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size=3D3><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE:
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face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: <BR>>
12pt"=<BR>>>=85.a=20<BR>>
solution to a space issue.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
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face=3D"Times New Roman"
size=3D3><SPAN=20<BR>>
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face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: <BR>>
12pt"=<BR>>>Here
is=20<BR>> the
situation:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
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size=3D3><SPAN=20<BR>>
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face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: <BR>>
12pt"=<BR>>>We
are=20<BR>> planning
a one day Open Space event for about 300
people.<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></=<BR>>
FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:
0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: <BR>>
12pt"=<BR>>>To
imagine=20<BR>> the
setting =96 imagine classical ballroom, very large oval, <BR>>
with=<BR>>
a=20<BR>> terrace
going around the edge.
<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Then divide the room in
<BR>> =<BR>>
thirds,=20<BR>>
keeping a central almost square area and two fan-shaped
edge=20<BR>>
rooms.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>One of
=<BR>> which
is=20<BR>> ours (with
a total capacity of<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: <BR>>
yes">&=<BR>>
nbsp;=20<BR>>
</SPAN>750 people theatre style) with
these=20<BR>>
challenges:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P
class=3DMsoNormal=20<BR>>
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 =<BR>> level1
lfo1; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><![if
!supportLists]><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3DWingdings
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-fareast-=<BR>>
font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family:
<BR>> =<BR>>
Wingdings"><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">=A7<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" <BR>>
size=<BR>>
=3D1><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New
Roman'"> &=<BR>>
nbsp; =20<BR>>
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]>It
is shaped like a=<BR>>
=20<BR>>
fan.<o:p></o:p></P><BR>>
<P
class=3DMsoNormal=20<BR>>
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 =<BR>> level1
lfo1; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><![if
!supportLists]><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3DWingdings
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-fareast-=<BR>>
font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family:
<BR>> =<BR>>
Wingdings"><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">=A7<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" <BR>>
size=<BR>>
=3D1><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New
Roman'"> &=<BR>>
nbsp; =20<BR>>
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]>The
=93outer=94 rim <BR>> =<BR>>
of=20<BR>>
approximately 44 feed across is about
2<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>feet higher than the
=<BR>>
=93inner=94=20<BR>>
fan.<o:p></o:p></P><BR>>
<P
class=3DMsoNormal=20<BR>>
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 =<BR>> level1
lfo1; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><![if
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face=3DWingdings
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-fareast-=<BR>>
font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family:
<BR>> =<BR>>
Wingdings"><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">=A7<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" <BR>>
size=<BR>>
=3D1><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New
Roman'"> &=<BR>>
nbsp; =20<BR>>
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]>The
=93outer=94 rim <BR>> =<BR>>
is=20<BR>>
separated<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>from
<BR>> the=<BR>>
lower=20<BR>> space
by a metal and glass railing.
<o:p></o:p></P><BR>>
<P
class=3DMsoNormal=20<BR>>
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 =<BR>> level1
lfo1; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><![if
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face=3DWingdings
size=3D2><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-fareast-=<BR>>
font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family:
<BR>> =<BR>>
Wingdings"><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">=A7<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" <BR>>
size=<BR>>
=3D1><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New
Roman'"> &=<BR>>
nbsp; =20<BR>>
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]>While
the inner =<BR>> space
has=20<BR>> a very
high ceiling, the outer/upper space does not. <BR>>
<o:p></o:p><=<BR>>
/P><BR>> <P
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0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: <BR>>
12pt"=<BR>>>If an
open=20<BR>> space of
at least 35 to 40 feet is created on the lower part <BR>> (the=<BR>>
only=20<BR>> part
where you could create an open space) only about 2 =<BR>>
concentric=20<BR>>
circles can be created accommodating about 120
people.<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The remainder of the
=<BR>>
rows=20<BR>> would be
only half-circles or half-ovals, following the shape of <BR>> =<BR>>
the=20<BR>> terrace.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
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face=3D"Times New Roman"
size=3D3><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE:
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:
0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: <BR>>
12pt"=<BR>>>Has=20<BR>>
anybody ever had a similar
situation?<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What are your <BR>>
thoughts?=<BR>>
<SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The space appears to
<BR>> be=<BR>>
so=20<BR>> awkward
and unaccommodating for open space, with stairs and =<BR>>
railings,=20<BR>> and
limited opportunity to actually create something that =<BR>>
resembles=20<BR>>
circles.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Maybe
I =<BR>>
just=20<BR>> worry
too much about the space and the right people will come (=<BR>>
and=20<BR>> stay?!)
and make a circle?<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: <BR>>
yes"> =<BR>>
;=20<BR>>
</SPAN>Maybe it is really important to have circles and =93fan-=<BR>>
shaped=94=20<BR>>
just isn=92t going to work?
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:
0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman"
size=3D3><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE:
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:
0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: <BR>>
12pt"=<BR>>>Thanks
for=20<BR>> any
suggestions.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
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0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman"
size=3D3><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE:
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:
0.5in"><FONT=20<BR>>
face=3D"Times New Roman"
size=3D3><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE:
12pt">Claudia<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
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face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: <BR>>
12pt"=<BR>>>Triune=20<BR>>
Milagro =96
Madison<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>*
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------------------------------<BR>><BR>> Date: Tue, 21
Jun 2005 10:34:49 -0400<BR>> From: Jaime Pedreros <<A
href="mailto:jpedrerosf@gmail.com">jpedrerosf@gmail.com</A>><BR>>
Subject: Re: OS research<BR>><BR>> Hello John!<BR>><BR>> You, as
well as everybody on the list, are happily welcome to post<BR>> requests.
Sharing waht one knows is a way of "opening your inner<BR>> space". Good
luck<BR>><BR>> Jaime<BR>><BR>> 2005/6/20, john engle <<A
href="mailto:englejohn@hotmail.com">englejohn@hotmail.com</A>>:<BR>>>
thank you very much, jaime! i really appreciate you taking the time
to<BR>>> communicate this. i was not aware of this information and am
going to <BR>>> check<BR>>> it out
tomorrow.<BR>>><BR>>> again, thank you for writing and please
forgive me for taking so long to<BR>>> respond.<BR>>><BR>>>
kind regards,<BR>>><BR>>> john<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
<A href="http://JohnEngle.blogspot.com">http://JohnEngle.blogspot.com</A> -
Reflections about Haiti, life, and our <BR>>> work.<BR>>> <A
href="http://JohnEngle.info">http://JohnEngle.info</A><BR>>> <A
href="http://TheExperiment.info">http://TheExperiment.info</A><BR>>><BR>>>
>From: Jaime Pedreros <<A
href="mailto:jpedrerosf@gmail.com">jpedrerosf@gmail.com</A>><BR>>>
>Reply-To: Jaime Pedreros <<A
href="mailto:jpedrerosf@gmail.com">jpedrerosf@gmail.com</A>><BR>>>
>To: <A
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A><BR>>>
>Subject: Re: OS research<BR>>> >Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:14:51
-0400<BR>>> ><BR>>> >Hello John,<BR>>>
><BR>>> >I enteres the OST web site i.e. <A
href="http://www.openspaceworld.org">www.openspaceworld.org</A> If you
go to<BR>>> >"other collections of facilitation resources" will find
the Doersam<BR>>> >Clark overview. In the Powerpoint
presentation, (3Mb) there is a<BR>>> >slide showing a table that
compares personal and organizational<BR>>> >change; one of them has
been proposed by Harrison Owen and the other<BR>>> >one by an author
whose name I do not remember. If you search something<BR>>> >more
about this author, you may enrich your perspective about change<BR>>>
>and perhaps some other research results would arise.<BR>>>
><BR>>> >Good luck!<BR>>> ><BR>>>
>Jaime<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> >On 6/15/05, john
engle <<A href="mailto:englejohn@hotmail.com">englejohn@hotmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>> > > dear os listers,<BR>>> >
><BR>>> > > i have a friend who is working on her doctorate and
considering using <BR>>> > > OS<BR>>> >in<BR>>>
> > personal and organizational transformation as the theme of her
study.<BR>>> >she<BR>>> > > has been the director of a
nonprofit organization working in <BR>>> > > innercity<BR>>>
> > Philadelphia for ten years and feels that Open Space is key to the
<BR>>> > > work<BR>>> > > going to a new
level.<BR>>> > ><BR>>> > > Is there a page where links
to all OS research can be found?<BR>>> > ><BR>>> > >
I've just spent about 15 minutes looking and couldn't find it.
Sure<BR>>> >would<BR>>> > > be<BR>>> > >
great if there is one and it's quickly accessible to anyone.<BR>>> >
><BR>>> > > thanks!<BR>>> > ><BR>>> > >
john engle<BR>>> > ><BR>>> > ><BR>>> >
><BR>>> > ><BR>>> > ><BR>>> > > <A
href="http://JohnEngle.blogspot.com">http://JohnEngle.blogspot.com</A> -
Reflections about Haiti, life, and <BR>>> > > our<BR>>> >
> work.<BR>>> > > <A
href="http://JohnEngle.info">http://JohnEngle.info</A><BR>>> > >
<A href="http://TheExperiment.info">http://TheExperiment.info</A><BR>>>
> ><BR>>> > >
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------------------------------<BR>><BR>> Date: Tue, 21
Jun 2005 11:46:59 -0400<BR>> From: Diane Gibeault <<A
href="mailto:diane.gibeault@rogers.com">diane.gibeault@rogers.com</A>><BR>>
Subject: OST Practitioner in Indonesia<BR>><BR>> This is a multi-part
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8bit<BR>><BR>> I've received from a Centre for Community Empowerment
Studies in <BR>> Indonesia,<BR>> a request for help to use OST with
villagers. I looked at the OSWorld map<BR>> but no Indonesia practitioners
are listed. Does anyone have names of <BR>> people<BR>> in Indonesia or
countries nearby that I could suggest so they might be <BR>> able<BR>>
to connect more easily.<BR>> Diane<BR>><BR>> Diane Gibeault CPF /
FPA<BR>><BR>> Diane Gibeault & Associé.es-Associates<BR>><BR>>
<A
href="http://www.dianegibeault.com">www.dianegibeault.com</A><BR>><BR>>
<A
href="mailto:diane.gibeault@rogers.com">diane.gibeault@rogers.com</A>
Ottawa Canada (613) 744-2638<BR>><BR>> Facilitation and
Training in Support of Transformation<BR>> Facilitation et formation en
appui à la transformation<BR>><BR>><BR>> *<BR>> *<BR>>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN
class=3D500213715-21062005><FONT =<BR>> size=3D2>I've
received=20<BR>> from <FONT color=3D#000000><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; =<BR>>
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AR-SA"><FONT=20<BR>> color=3D#000000 size=3D2>a Centre for
Community Empowerment Studies in =<BR>> Indonesia, a=20<BR>> request for
</FONT></SPAN>help to use OST with villagers. I looked at
=<BR>> the=20<BR>> OSWorld map but no Indonesia practitioners are
listed. Does anyone have =<BR>> names of=20<BR>> people in Indonesia or
countries nearby that I could suggest so they =<BR>> might be=20<BR>>
able to connect more easily.
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align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DFR-CA=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: =<BR>>
FR-CA"><FONT=20<BR>> color=3D#000080><FONT size=3D2>Diane
Gibeault </FONT><FONT size=3D1>CPF =<BR>> /=20<BR>>
FPA</FONT> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#000080><FONT
=<BR>> size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DFR-CA=20<BR>> style=3D"FONT-SIZE:
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mso-ansi-language: =<BR>> FR-CA"><SPAN><SPAN=20<BR>>
class=3DSpellE><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial"><SPAN =<BR>><BR>> style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial"><?xml:namespace prefix =3D =<BR>> o ns =3D=20<BR>>
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p><SPAN=20<BR>>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p><SPAN
lang=3DFR-CA=20<BR>> style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;
mso-ansi-language: =<BR>>
FR-CA"><SPAN><STRONG><SPAN=20<BR>>
class=3DSpellE>Diane Gibeault</SPAN> & <SPAN=20<BR>>
class=3DSpellE>Associ=E9.es-Associates</SPAN></STRONG></SPAN></SPAN></o:p=<BR>>></SPAN></SPAN></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
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color=3D#000080><STRONG><FONT size=3D3><SPAN
class=3DSpellE><SPAN =<BR>> lang=3DFR-CA=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: =<BR>>
FR-CA"><SPAN><SPAN=20<BR>> class=3DSpellE><SPAN
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN =<BR>><BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p><A=20<BR>>
href=3D"<A
href='http://www.dianegibeault.com/"><STRONG><FONT=20'>http://www.dianegibeault.com/"><STRONG><FONT=20</A><BR>>
color=3D#0080c0>www.dianegibeault.com</FONT></STRONG></A><FONT
=<BR>> color=3D#000000=20<BR>>
size=3D3><STRONG> </STRONG></FONT></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>=<BR>>
</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></=<BR>>
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mso-ansi-language: =<BR>> FR-CA"><SPAN><SPAN=20<BR>>
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size=3D1><FONT color=3D#0080c0><STRONG>Ottawa
Canada (613)=20<BR>>
744-2638</STRONG></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P><BR>>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: =<BR>>
FR-CA"><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN=20<BR>>
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mso-ansi-language: =<BR>> FR-CA"><SPAN=20<BR>> style=3D"COLOR:
blue"><FONT face=3D"Eras Demi ITC" color=3D#000080=20<BR>>
size=3D1><STRONG>Facilitation <SPAN
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Transformation<BR>Facilitation et formation en appui =E0 la=20<BR>>
transformation</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV><BR>>
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Jun 2005 21:24:08 +0300<BR>> From: Funda Oral <<A
href="mailto:fundaoral@ttnet.net.tr">fundaoral@ttnet.net.tr</A>><BR>>
Subject: turkish at osworld.org web page<BR>><BR>> Ladies and
Gentlemen,<BR>><BR>> Please be informed that OST explained in turkish is
now at your service<BR>> at <A
href="http://www.openspaceworld.org">www.openspaceworld.org</A><BR>><BR>>
I want to thank to,<BR>><BR>> Ozge who helped me with the translation,
and says that she supports me <BR>> with<BR>> this<BR>> Open Space
Dream although she thinks that my efforts are similar to Don<BR>>
Quichote's<BR>><BR>> Filiz, who carefully edited and corrected the
text.<BR>><BR>> Okan, who helped me to solve many technical problems
easily<BR>><BR>> and finally Michael Herman, who uploaded, re-uploaded
again and again,<BR>> helped patiently with some stubborn turkish letters
and who even had to<BR>> learn some<BR>> turkish at the
end.<BR>><BR>> Sincerely,<BR>> Funda<BR>><BR>> *<BR>>
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------------------------------<BR>><BR>> Date: Tue, 21
Jun 2005 15:59:35 EDT<BR>> From: Joelle Lyons Everett
<<A href="mailto:JLEShelton@aol.com">JLEShelton@aol.com</A>><BR>>
Subject: Re: Hello from Sweden<BR>><BR>>
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Agneta--<BR>><BR>> Thanks for your story--it made me laugh,
too. It must be the ultimate in<BR>> transparency for the
facilitator to grab her nap in full view of all<BR>> participants--as
Harrison says, they will know they did it all themselves!<BR>><BR>> It's
a cloudy day here today, the solstice, but yesterday was gloriously <BR>>
hot<BR>> and sunny--we planted herbs, took a look to see where to plant
some <BR>> flowers,<BR>> and the evening was so warm and lovely that I
was out pruning bushes until <BR>> the<BR>> moon came up, looking
incredibly big and bright. A good start to summer!<BR>><BR>>
Joelle<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> *<BR>> *<BR>>
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SIZE=3D"2">Agneta--<BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> Thanks for your
story--it made me laugh, too. It must be the <BR>>
ultimate=<BR>> in transparency for the facilitator to grab her nap in full
view of all <BR>> par=<BR>> ticipants--as Harrison says, they will know
they did it all <BR>> themselves!<BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> It's
a cloudy day here today, the solstice, but yesterday was gloriously <BR>>
hot=<BR>> and sunny--we planted herbs, took a look to see where to plant
some <BR>> flowers=<BR>> , and the evening was so warm and lovely that I
was out pruning bushes <BR>> until=<BR>> the moon came up, looking
incredibly big and bright. A good start <BR>> to=<BR>>
summer!<BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> Joelle<BR><BR>>
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------------------------------<BR>><BR>> Date: Tue, 21
Jun 2005 18:01:45 -0400<BR>> From: Jennifer Hurley <<A
href="mailto:JLHurley@hfadesign.com">JLHurley@hfadesign.com</A>><BR>>
Subject: Re: Timing for really large groups<BR>><BR>>> This message
is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not <BR>>>
understand<BR>> this format, some or all of this message may not be
legible.<BR>><BR>> --B_3202221706_2078831<BR>> Content-type:
text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"<BR>> Content-transfer-encoding:
7bit<BR>><BR>> On 6/16/05 12:33 AM, "Joelle Lyons Everett" <<A
href="mailto:JLEShelton@aol.com">JLEShelton@aol.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>><BR>>> From my experience as a participant in an Open
Space of 700 or 800, I <BR>>> would<BR>>> endorse Lisa's
suggestion to skip the sign-up at the wall. It was hard
<BR>>> to<BR>>> get close enough to the wall posters to read or
write. The large screen <BR>>> will<BR>>> help with
the reading, so it will not be necessary for everyone to get to <BR>>>
the<BR>>> wall at the start.<BR>><BR>> I have never really
understood the purpose of having people sign up at the<BR>> wall. It
seems cumbersome to have people write on the wall. Instead, I<BR>>
have been putting sign-up sheets wherever the discussion circles are. <BR>>
Does<BR>> anyone have a good reason for asking people to sign up at the
wall?<BR>><BR>> Thanks,<BR>> Jennifer Hurley<BR>>
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FACE=3D"Verdana"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:10.0px'>On 6/16/05 12:33
<BR>> AM, &q=<BR>> uot;Joelle Lyons Everett"
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</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN
STYLE=3D'font-size:10.0px'><FONT <BR>> FACE=3D"Geneva=<BR>>
">From my experience as a participant in an Open Space of 700 or 800, I
<BR>> woul=<BR>> d endorse Lisa's suggestion to skip the sign-up at the
wall. <BR>> It =<BR>> was hard to get close enough
to the wall posters to read or write. <BR>> &nb=<BR>>
sp;The large screen will help with the reading, so it will not be <BR>>
necessary =<BR>> for everyone to get to the wall at the
start.<BR><BR>> </FONT></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN
STYLE=3D'font-size:10.0px'><FONT <BR>> FACE=3D"Verda=<BR>>
na"><BR><BR>> I have never really understood the purpose of having
people sign up at the <BR>> =<BR>> wall. It seems cumbersome
to have people write on the wall. <BR>> Inst=<BR>> ead, I have
been putting sign-up sheets wherever the discussion circles <BR>>
are.=<BR>> Does anyone have a good reason for asking people to
sign up at the <BR>> wa=<BR>> ll?<BR><BR>> <BR><BR>>
Thanks,<BR><BR>> Jennifer Hurley<BR><BR>>
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board once, a huge one. The problem <BR>> with=<BR>> =20<BR>> it is
that everyone can comment on the agenda from their seats and you=20<BR>>
actually miss out on the chaos of standing at the wall. Also there
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that <BR>> breeds=<BR>> =20<BR>> responsibility, rather than just
throwing it out there for someone else <BR>> to=<BR>> =20<BR>> type
into a grid.=20<BR>><BR>> If you do with the eBB, then have the paper
wall too...there is nothing <BR>> lik=<BR>> e=20<BR>> the
buzz=20<BR>><BR>> Also I don't do sign ups per se, although often groups
will figure that's=<BR>> =20<BR>> what they are supposed to do at the
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skip the sign-up at the wall. It was <BR>>> h=<BR>>
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sheets wherever the discussion circles are. Does <BR>>> any=<BR>>
one=20<BR>>> have a good reason for asking people to sign up at the
wall?<BR>>>=20<BR>>> Thanks,<BR>>> Jennifer
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board once, a huge one. The<BR>> problem with it is that everyone
can comment on the agenda from their<BR>> seats and you actually miss out
on the chaos of standing at the<BR>> wall. Also there is
something to the physical act of actually<BR>> putting your topic up that
breeds responsibility, rather than just<BR>> throwing it out there for
someone else to type into a grid. <br><BR>>
<br><BR>> If you do with the eBB, then have the paper wall
too...there is nothing <BR>> lik=<BR>> e the buzz <br><BR>>
<br><BR>> Also I don't do sign ups per se, although often groups will
figure<BR>> that's what they are supposed to do at the wall.
Sometimes it<BR>> happens, sometimes not. I am pretty strict
about asking conveners<BR>> to put their names on their topics
though...again, passion bounded by<BR>> responsibility and it makes it
easier to find people when sessions are<BR>> wanting to be
changed.<br><BR>> <br><BR>>
Chris<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On
6/21/05, <b <BR>> class=3D"gmail=<BR>> _sendername">Jennifer
Hurley</b> <<a <BR>> href=3D"<A
href="mailto:JLHurley@hfadesign.c">mailto:JLHurley@hfadesign.c</A>=<BR>>
om">JLHurley@hfadesign.com</a>>
wrote:</span><blockquote <BR>> class=3D"gmail_=<BR>> quote"
style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt <BR>>
=<BR>> 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><BR>> <span
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face=3D"Verdana"><span style=3D"font-size: 10px;">On 6/16/05 12:33
<BR>> AM=<BR>> , "Joelle Lyons Everett" <<a
<BR>> href=3D"<A
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target=3D"_blank" onclick=3D"return <BR>>
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)=<BR>> ">JLEShelton@aol.com<BR>>
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</span></font><blockquote><span style=3D"font-size:
10px;"><font <BR>> face=3D"Ge=<BR>> neva">From<BR>> my
experience as a participant in an Open Space of 700 or 800, I would<BR>>
endorse Lisa's suggestion to skip the sign-up at the wall.<BR>>
It was hard to get close enough to the wall posters to
read<BR>> or write. The large screen will help with the
reading, so<BR>> it will not be necessary for everyone to get to the wall
at the start.<br><BR>>
</font></span></blockquote></span><span
style=3D"font-size: 10px;"><font <BR>> fa=<BR>>
ce=3D"Verdana"><br><BR>> I have never really understood the
purpose of having people sign up at<BR>> the wall. It seems
cumbersome to have people write on the wall.<BR>> Instead, I have
been putting sign-up sheets wherever the<BR>> discussion circles are.
Does anyone have a good reason for asking<BR>> people to sign up
at the wall?<br><BR>> <br><BR>> Thanks,<br><BR>>
Jennifer Hurley<br><BR>>
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Dear Diane,<BR>> if you go to Singapore on the world map<BR>> (its a
tiny dot at the very bottom of Malaysia that you can hardly<BR>> see
with your naked eye, so use the zoom to see it)<BR>> which I think is the
closest place to Indonesia<BR>> you will find Doug and Prabu there.<BR>>
Wouldnt be in the least surprised if they could not help you.<BR>><BR>>
(Just received this note on what the world map is good for and other<BR>>
great news from Marina Tyasto who usually hangs out in Siberia:<BR>> Dear
Michael,<BR>><BR>> Do you know that I've met Funda through your Map and
invited her to<BR>> do OST<BR>> meeting at the 7th Global Leadership
Forum in Istanbul where we<BR>> already<BR>> planned to do it with Jan
Secor. Thank you for including Turkey in my<BR>> info.<BR>> Funda told
me that other Turkish ospaicers live out of Turkey - I<BR>> think
in<BR>> Germany.<BR>> I'd like to use this opportunity to tell that i
was doing many OST<BR>> this year<BR>> with different groups of state
and municipal servants of Siberia and<BR>> also<BR>> with administration
and faculty of my Academy. And I have two orders<BR>> for the<BR>> FSC
for August-September - for SAPA (Siberian Academy for Public<BR>>
Administration) and Strategic planning of the Iskitim district<BR>>
(Novosibirsk<BR>> region). Will report when happened.<BR>> I'd love to
go to Halifax, but before I'll try to go to Bethlehem for<BR>> the<BR>>
Peace trees Project at Hope Flowers school with the Earthstewards<BR>>
Network<BR>> Annual Gathering. If I could manage both - two problems -
visas and<BR>> money<BR>> for airfare. Wish is my fuel. Hope to move
forward.<BR>> When and where we'll drink coffee with you, Michael?
Love,<BR>><BR>> Marina<BR>><BR>> greetings from Berlin<BR>>
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on the world map<BR><BR>><BR>> (its a tiny dot at the very bottom
of Malaysia that you can hardly see <BR>> with your naked eye, so use
the zoom to see it)<BR><BR>><BR>> which I think is the closest
place to Indonesia<BR><BR>><BR>> you will find Doug and Prabu
there.<BR><BR>><BR>> Wouldnt be in the least surprised if they
could not help you.<BR><BR>><BR>> <BR><BR>><BR>> (Just
received this note on what the world map is good for and other great <BR>>
news from Marina Tyasto who usually hangs out in
Siberia:<BR><BR>><BR>> Dear Michael,<BR><BR>><BR>>
<BR><BR>><BR>> Do you know that I've met Funda through your Map
and invited her to do <BR>> OST<BR><BR>><BR>> meeting at the
7th Global Leadership Forum in Istanbul where we <BR>>
already<BR><BR>><BR>> planned to do it with Jan Secor. Thank you
for including Turkey in my <BR>> info.<BR><BR>><BR>> Funda told
me that other Turkish ospaicers live out of Turkey - I think <BR>>
in<BR><BR>><BR>> Germany.<BR><BR>><BR>> I'd like to
use this opportunity to tell that i was doing many OST this <BR>>
year<BR><BR>><BR>> with different groups of state and municipal
servants of Siberia and <BR>> also<BR><BR>><BR>> with
administration and faculty of my Academy. And I have two orders for <BR>>
the<BR><BR>><BR>> FSC for August-September - for SAPA (Siberian
Academy for Public<BR><BR>><BR>> Administration) and Strategic
planning of the Iskitim district <BR>>
(Novosibirsk<BR><BR>><BR>> region). Will report when
happened.<BR><BR>><BR>> I'd love to go to Halifax, but before I'll
try to go to Bethlehem for <BR>> the<BR><BR>><BR>> Peace trees
Project at Hope Flowers school with the Earthstewards <BR>>
Network<BR><BR>><BR>> Annual Gathering. If I could manage both -
two problems - visas and <BR>> money<BR><BR>><BR>> for airfare.
Wish is my fuel. Hope to move forward.<BR><BR>><BR>> When and
where we'll drink coffee with you, Michael? Love,<BR><BR>><BR>>
<BR><BR>><BR>> Marina<BR><BR>><BR>>
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Dear Jennifer,<BR>> here is what I tell people when I invite them to go up
to the<BR>> bulletin board with the possibility of signing
up:<BR>><BR>> "In a minute, the market place opens. When you go there
you might be<BR>> confronted with various challenges. One is, that you want
to go to<BR>> two sessions that are posted for the same beginning time.
Dont<BR>> despair, just go to the convener and discuss with them moving it
to<BR>> another time so that you can attend. If they are unwilling you
might<BR>> offer them something they cant really turn down very easily,
like a<BR>> couple of martinis at the bar. If that does not do the trick,
you<BR>> might decide to bumble bee between the two groups or be so mad
to<BR>> decide to go to neither and rather take a break...or you just make
a<BR>> decision. If you yourself are the convener of those two issues,
well,<BR>> just discuss it with yourself.<BR>> After that sign in. Just
jot down your name on all the sheets your<BR>> are interested in. This does
not commit you in any way.<BR>> When you are through with that, have
another look. If you signed for<BR>> an issue and find that there are lots
of people there and you are<BR>> scared of large groups you might just
forget about that one. Or if<BR>> you see the names of certain people that
you know you would greatly<BR>> enjoy being in a group with, go there. Some
of you might want to jot<BR>> down all the times and places on a separate
sheet for your own<BR>> orientation, others will go to the bulletin board
after each session<BR>> and make a decision about their next
move."<BR>><BR>> Greetings from Berlin<BR>> mmp<BR>><BR>>
--Original Message Text---<BR>> From: Jennifer Hurley<BR>> Date: Tue, 21
Jun 2005 18:01:45 -0400<BR>><BR>> Re: Timing for really large groups On
6/16/05 12:33 AM, "Joelle Lyons<BR>> Everett" <<A
href="mailto:JLEShelton@aol.com">JLEShelton@aol.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>><BR>> From my experience as a participant in an Open Space of
700 or 800, I<BR>> would endorse Lisa's suggestion to skip the sign-up at
the wall. It<BR>> was hard to get close enough to the wall
posters to read or write.<BR>> The large screen will help with the reading,
so it will not be<BR>> necessary for everyone to get to the wall at the
start.<BR>><BR>><BR>> I have never really understood the purpose of
having people sign up<BR>> at the wall. It seems cumbersome to have
people write on the wall.<BR>> Instead, I have been putting sign-up sheets
wherever the discussion<BR>> circles are. Does anyone have a good
reason for asking people to<BR>> sign up at the wall?<BR>><BR>>
Thanks,<BR>> Jennifer Hurley<BR>>
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DEFAULT="SIZE">Dear Jennifer,<BR><BR>><BR>> here is what I tell
people when I invite them to go up to the bulletin <BR>> board with the
possibility of signing up:<BR><BR>><BR>>
<BR><BR>><BR>> "In a minute, the market place opens. When you go
there you might be <BR>> confronted with various challenges. One is, that
you want to go to two <BR>> sessions that are posted for the same beginning
time. Dont despair, just <BR>> go to the convener and discuss with them
moving it to another time so that <BR>> you can attend. If they are
unwilling you might offer them something they <BR>> cant really turn down
very easily, like a couple of martinis at the bar. <BR>> If that does not
do the trick, you might decide to bumble bee between the <BR>> two groups
or be so mad to decide to go to neither and rather take a <BR>> break...or
you just make a decision. If you yourself are the convener of <BR>> those
two issues, well, just discuss it with yourself.<BR><BR>><BR>>
After that sign in. Just jot down your name on all the sheets your are
<BR>> interested in. This does not commit you in any
way.<BR><BR>><BR>> When you are through with that, have another
look. If you signed for an <BR>> issue and find that there are lots of
people there and you are scared of <BR>> large groups you might just forget
about that one. Or if you see the names <BR>> of certain people that you
know you would greatly enjoy being in a group <BR>> with, go there. Some of
you might want to jot down all the times and <BR>> places on a separate
sheet for your own orientation, others will go to the <BR>> bulletin board
after each session and make a decision about their next <BR>>
move."<BR><BR>><BR>> <BR><BR>><BR>> Greetings from
Berlin<BR><BR>><BR>> mmp<BR><BR>><BR>>
<BR><BR>><BR>> --Original Message
Text---<BR><BR>><BR>> <B>From:</B> Jennifer
Hurley<BR><BR>><BR>> <B>Date:</B> Tue, 21 Jun 2005
18:01:45 -0400<BR><BR>><BR>> <BR><BR>><BR>> Re: Timing
for really large groups <FONT FACE="Verdana">On 6/16/05 12:33 <BR>>
AM, "Joelle Lyons Everett" <JLEShelton@aol.com>
wrote:<BR><BR>><BR>> <BR><BR>><BR>> <FONT
FACE="Geneva">From my experience as a participant in an Open Space <BR>>
of 700 or 800, I would endorse Lisa's suggestion to skip the sign-up at
<BR>> the wall. It was hard to get close enough to the wall
posters to read or <BR>> write. The large screen will help with
the reading, so it will not be <BR>> necessary for everyone to get to the
wall at the start.<BR><BR>><BR>> <BR><BR>><BR>>
<FONT FACE="Verdana"><BR><BR>><BR>> I have never really
understood the purpose of having people sign up at the <BR>> wall. It
seems cumbersome to have people write on the wall. Instead, I <BR>>
have been putting sign-up sheets wherever the discussion circles are. <BR>>
Does anyone have a good reason for asking people to sign up at the <BR>>
wall?<BR><BR>><BR>> <BR><BR>><BR>>
Thanks,<BR><BR>><BR>> Jennifer Hurley<BR><BR>><BR>>
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7bit<BR>><BR>> I have not changed the process much for really large
groups even in<BR>> really small time frames. I do have everyone go
up to the wall. To me<BR>> it is an essential part of
OST. Unlike Lisa, I do have one line and<BR>> have individuals
announce topics from that big long line. I do "guide"<BR>> that part
of the process. When people go to the wall, and see what has<BR>>
emerged as agenda is when the "chaos" strikes and they collectively
and<BR>> individually take "control" of the session from that point
on. Asking<BR>> people to "sign up" is about engaging people in
choice amongst more<BR>> options than they can usually manage. It
substantially reinforces the<BR>> principles and law that they must manage
their own energy, take<BR>> responsibility for their own passion (in
addition to that of the<BR>> initiator) - choose a topic or to be a bumble
bee or butter fly. It is<BR>> intentionally chaotic - it is moving to
the edge of chaos where you<BR>> cannot predict the outcomes. It
fosters collective consciousness that<BR>> if we are to deal with this
complex agenda we must discover how to go<BR>> with the flow of what
emerges - and that no one will manage this for us.<BR>> I think that best
happens at the wall rather than at the announcing of<BR>>
topics.<BR>><BR>> Together with others, we recently did 14 OST events in
three weeks with<BR>> form 300 to 500 participants with a full convergence
in a day. Not<BR>> ideal, but it worked! And they all went to
the wall and chose (and many<BR>> signed up).<BR>><BR>>
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have not changed the =<BR>> process<BR>> much for really large groups
even in really small time frames.<span<BR>>
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I do have everyone go up
to the =<BR>> wall.<span<BR>>
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>To me it is an essential
part =<BR>> of OST.<span<BR>>
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Unlike Lisa, I
do have =<BR>> one line<BR>> and have individuals announce topics from
that big long line.<span<BR>> style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>I do “guide” that =<BR>> part of<BR>>
the process.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>When people =<BR>> go to the<BR>> wall, and see what has
emerged as agenda is when the “chaos”<BR>> strikes and
<span class=3DGramE>they</span> collectively and =<BR>>
individually take “control”<BR>> of the session from
that point on.<span =<BR>>
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> <BR>> </span>Asking
people to “sign up” is about engaging people =<BR>>
in<BR>> choice amongst more options than they can usually
manage.<span<BR>> style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>It substantially reinforces the<BR>> principles and law that
they must manage their own energy, take =<BR>> responsibility<BR>> for
their own passion (in addition to that of the initiator) – =<BR>>
choose a<BR>> topic or to be a bumble bee or butter fly.<span =<BR>>
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> <BR>> </span>It is
intentionally chaotic – it is moving to the edge of =<BR>>
chaos<BR>> where you cannot predict the outcomes.<span =<BR>>
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> <BR>> </span>It fosters
collective consciousness that if we are to deal with =<BR>> this<BR>>
complex agenda we must discover how to go with the flow of what emerges
=<BR>> –<BR>> and that no one will manage this for us.<span
=<BR>> style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> <BR>> </span>I
think that best happens at the wall rather than at the =<BR>> announcing
of<BR>>
topics.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><BR>><BR>>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy
face=3DArial><span =<BR>> style=3D'font-size:<BR>>
10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></f=<BR>>
ont></p><BR>><BR>> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =<BR>> style=3D'font-size:<BR>>
10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Together with others, we
=<BR>> recently<BR>> did 14 OST events in three weeks with form 300 to
500 participants with =<BR>> a full convergence<BR>> in a day.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Not ideal, but =<BR>>
it worked!<span<BR>> style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>And they all went to the wall =<BR>> and chose<BR>> (and
many signed
up).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><BR>><BR>>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy
face=3DArial><span =<BR>> style=3D'font-size:<BR>>
10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></f=<BR>>
ont></p><BR>><BR>> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =<BR>> style=3D'font-size:<BR>>
10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Larry<o:p></o:p></span></fo=<BR>>
nt></p><BR>><BR>> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =<BR>> style=3D'font-size:<BR>>
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ont></p><BR>><BR>> <p
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MS";mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;<BR>> color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Larry
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MS";mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-no-proof:<BR>>
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Sans =<BR>> MS";mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;<BR>>
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Transformation<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><BR>><BR>>
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Sans =<BR>> MS";mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;<BR>>
color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Toronto, ON, =<BR>>
Canada<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><BR>><BR>>
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Sans =<BR>> MS";mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;<BR>>
color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>416.653.4829</span></font><font
=<BR>> color=3Dnavy><span<BR>>
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<p class=3DMsoAutoSig><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy
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href=3D"<A
href='http://www.spiritedorg.com"><font'>http://www.spiritedorg.com"><font</A>
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font><font<BR>> size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
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Jun 2005 19:55:29 EDT<BR>> From: Joelle Lyons Everett
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Jennifer--<BR>><BR>> I agree with much of what has been said about "why
sign up at the wall?" <BR>> It<BR>> physically involves people in making
choices, making commitments, the<BR>> emergence of meaning out of
chaos. Although a signature on the session <BR>> poster
is<BR>> not really a commitment, it does give the convenor a clue to
whether the <BR>> group<BR>> might be closer to 2 or 22. I'm
very much in favor of processes that get<BR>> people physically into the
action, rather than have them on the sidelines <BR>> thinking<BR>> about
why this is not going to work!<BR>><BR>>
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22. I'm very much in favor <BR>> of=<BR>> processes that
get people physically into the action, rather than have <BR>> them=<BR>>
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------------------------------<BR>><BR>> Date: Wed, 22
Jun 2005 15:13:27 +1000<BR>> From: John Rapp <<A
href="mailto:john.rapp@peithene.com">john.rapp@peithene.com</A>><BR>>
Subject: Re: OST Practitioner in Indonesia<BR>><BR>> This is a
multi-part message in MIME format.<BR>><BR>>
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quoted-printable<BR>><BR>> I have done some OST in Indonesia (with
lawyers, not villagers), but am =<BR>> now based in Seattle. Patrick
Lambe from Singapore will get you =<BR>> connected: <A
href="mailto:enquiries@straitsknowledge.com">enquiries@straitsknowledge.com</A>.
John<BR>><BR>> ________________________________<BR>><BR>> From:
OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Diane =<BR>>
Gibeault<BR>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 8:47 AM<BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A><BR>>
Subject: OST Practitioner in Indonesia<BR>><BR>><BR>> I've received
from a Centre for Community Empowerment Studies in =<BR>> Indonesia, a
request for help to use OST with villagers. I looked at the =<BR>> OSWorld
map but no Indonesia practitioners are listed. Does anyone have =<BR>>
names of people in Indonesia or countries nearby that I could suggest so
=<BR>> they might be able to connect more easily.=20<BR>><BR>>
Diane=20<BR>><BR>> Diane Gibeault CPF / FPA =20<BR>><BR>> Diane
Gibeault & Associ=E9.es-Associates<BR>><BR>> <A
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href="mailto:diane.gibeault@rogers.com">diane.gibeault@rogers.com</A> <<A
href="mailto:diane.gibeault@rogers.com">mailto:diane.gibeault@rogers.com</A>>
Ottawa =<BR>> Canada (613) 744-2638<BR>><BR>>
Facilitation and Training in Support of Transformation<BR>> Facilitation et
formation en appui =E0 la transformation<BR>><BR>> =20<BR>> * *
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name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD><BR>> <BODY><BR>> <DIV
dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D093051205-22062005><FONT
=<BR>> face=3DArial=20<BR>> color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I have done some
OST in Indonesia (with =<BR>> lawyers, not=20<BR>> villagers), but am
now based in Seattle. Patrick Lambe from =<BR>> Singapore
will=20<BR>> get you connected: <A=20<BR>> href=3D"<A
href='mailto:enquiries@straitsknowledge.com">enquiries@straitsknowledge'>mailto:enquiries@straitsknowledge.com">enquiries@straitsknowledge</A>=<BR>>
.com</A>. =20<BR>>
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<HR tabIndex=3D-1><BR>> <FONT face=3DTahoma
size=3D2><B>From:</B> OSLIST=20<BR>>
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Diane=20<BR>> Gibeault<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday,
June 21, 2005 8:47 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20<BR>> <A
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B>Subject:</B">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B>Subject:</B</A>>
OST Practitioner in=20<BR>>
Indonesia<BR></FONT><BR></DIV><BR>>
<DIV></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN
class=3D500213715-21062005><FONT =<BR>> size=3D2>I've
received=20<BR>> from <FONT color=3D#000000><SPAN=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; =<BR>>
mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';
=<BR>> mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language:
AR-SA"><FONT=20<BR>> color=3D#000000 size=3D2>a Centre for
Community Empowerment Studies in =<BR>> Indonesia, a=20<BR>> request for
</FONT></SPAN>help to use OST with villagers. I looked at
=<BR>> the=20<BR>> OSWorld map but no Indonesia practitioners are
listed. Does anyone have =<BR>> names of=20<BR>> people in Indonesia or
countries nearby that I could suggest so they =<BR>> might be=20<BR>>
able to connect more easily.
</FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>>
<DIV class=3DSection1><BR>> <DIV><BR>> <P
class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D4><FONT face=3D"Brush
=<BR>> Script MT">Diane=20<BR>>
</FONT></FONT></P><BR>> <P class=3DMsoNormal
align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DFR-CA=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: =<BR>>
FR-CA"><FONT=20<BR>> color=3D#000080><FONT size=3D2>Diane
Gibeault </FONT><FONT size=3D1>CPF =<BR>> /=20<BR>>
FPA</FONT> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#000080><FONT
=<BR>> size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DFR-CA=20<BR>> style=3D"FONT-SIZE:
7pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: =<BR>>
FR-CA"></SPAN></FONT><SPAN=20<BR>>
lang=3DFR-CA=20<BR>> style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;
mso-ansi-language: =<BR>> FR-CA"><SPAN><SPAN=20<BR>>
class=3DSpellE><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial"><SPAN =<BR>><BR>> style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial"><o:p><SPAN=20<BR>> style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt;
FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN=20<BR>> style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt;
FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p><SPAN lang=3DFR-CA=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: =<BR>>
FR-CA"><SPAN><STRONG><SPAN=20<BR>>
class=3DSpellE>Diane Gibeault</SPAN> & <SPAN=20<BR>>
class=3DSpellE>Associ=E9.es-Associates</SPAN></STRONG></SPAN></SPAN></o:p=<BR>>></SPAN></SPAN></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DFR-CA=20<BR>>
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: =<BR>>
FR-CA"><SPAN><FONT=20<BR>> size=3D4><FONT
size=3D3><SPAN class=3DSpellE><SPAN=20<BR>> style=3D"FONT-SIZE:
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: =<BR>>
FR-CA"><SPAN><FONT=20<BR>>
color=3D#000080><STRONG><FONT size=3D3><SPAN
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