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<DIV>Thanks, Lisa for your encouragement to work with what "has been
given". </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Claudia</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:32:55 -0700 Lisa Heft <<A
href="mailto:lisaheft@openingspace.net">lisaheft@openingspace.net</A>>
writes:</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">Claudia –
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">You wrote
about your upcoming OS with 300 people in a fan-shaped
room:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Has anybody ever had a similar
situation?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What are your
thoughts?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The space appears to be
so awkward and unaccommodating for open space, with stairs and railings, and
limited opportunity to actually create something that resembles circles.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Maybe I just worry too much about the
space and the right people will come (and stay?!) and make a circle?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Maybe it is really important to have
circles and “fan-shaped” just isn’t going to work?
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">I’m
guessing you tried and tried to get it in another space but this is the one
you have been given.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">I seem to
remember …Brian Bainbridge, was it?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN><SPAN class=GramE>who</SPAN> spoke of a great OS in a room with theatre
seating (chairs attached to the floor) and a little tiny flat space up front
for an agenda wall?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And…Bernd
<SPAN class=GramE>Weber,</SPAN> was it?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN><SPAN class=GramE>who</SPAN> spoke of a great OS in a room filled with
one incredibly large table and people seated all around it and not much
additional room? <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">And I
myself had an experience with a room that was actually not a meeting room but
an exhibit hallway, l-o-n-g and narrow.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>And when I put chairs in sort of an arc facing a wall (with many
‘concentric’ rows out to the sides) the fire marshals came in and said that
all my chairs had to be locked together.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">In each of
these cases, the Open Space went beautifully. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I am sure in all our cases we ‘fought’
like crazy to get a better room, but these were the rooms we were given.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And so I’m sure that in each of our
cases we thought very carefully about the design, and adjusted in the most
creative ways, and carried intention and vision, and imagined and indicated a
circle even when there may not have been one (it helps to put the signs all
around the room and to indicate them as you explain principles and law to
further the circle feeling even in a long space, I have found). <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">And in each
of these cases, people got themselves to the location that was created for
them to write and announce their topics, they got to wherever the agenda wall
was set up to post their topics, and they held their discussions all around
the room – amazingly, clustering up in little circles even in locked-down
chairs – it’s a natural way to converse, in
circles.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">So I say
just do all the things you know to do, think of the best way possible to use
the space you have, and then enjoy all that Open
Space…<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">Lisa<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; mso-no-proof: yes">___________________________</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><FONT
face="Trebuchet MS" color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; mso-no-proof: yes; mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">L
i s a<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>H e f
t<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; mso-no-proof: yes">Consultant,
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; mso-no-proof: yes">O
p e n i n g<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>S p a c
e<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; mso-no-proof: yes">2325
Oregon<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; mso-no-proof: yes">Berkeley,
California<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; mso-no-proof: yes">94705-1106<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>USA<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; mso-no-proof: yes">+01
510 548-8449<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; mso-no-proof: yes"><A
href="mailto:lisaheft@openingspace.net"><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black">lisaheft@openingspace.net</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; mso-no-proof: yes"><A
href="http://www.openingspace.net"><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black">www.openingspace.net</SPAN></FONT></A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Claudia Haack<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, June 20, 2005 8:46
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Desperately
seeking...</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Desperately
seeking…<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">….a solution to a space issue.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Here is the
situation:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">We are planning a one day Open Space
event for about 300 people.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">To imagine the setting – imagine
classical ballroom, very large oval, with a terrace going around the edge.
<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Then divide the room in thirds,
keeping a central almost square area and two fan-shaped edge rooms.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>One of which is ours (with a total
capacity of<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>750 people theatre
style) with these challenges:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face=Wingdings size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-fareast-font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Wingdings"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">§<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]>It is shaped like a
fan.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face=Wingdings size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-fareast-font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Wingdings"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">§<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]>The “outer” rim of approximately
44 feed across is about 2<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>feet
higher than the “inner” fan.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face=Wingdings size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-fareast-font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Wingdings"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">§<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]>The “outer” rim is separated<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>from the lower space by a metal and
glass railing. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face=Wingdings size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-fareast-font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Wingdings"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">§<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]>While the inner space has a very
high ceiling, the outer/upper space does not. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">If an open space of at least 35 to 40
feet is created on the lower part (the only part where you could create an
open space) only about 2 concentric circles can be created accommodating about
120 people.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The remainder of the
rows would be only half-circles or half-ovals, following the shape of the
terrace. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Has anybody ever had a similar
situation?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What are your
thoughts?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The space appears to be
so awkward and unaccommodating for open space, with stairs and railings, and
limited opportunity to actually create something that resembles circles.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Maybe I just worry too much about the
space and the right people will come (and stay?!) and make a circle?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Maybe it is really important to have
circles and “fan-shaped” just isn’t going to work?
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks for any suggestions.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Claudia<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Triune Milagro –
Madison<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>* *
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