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<DIV>Well, in that case you have just witnessed a complete transformation.
What Fan?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Claudia</DIV>
<DIV>Triune Milagro - Madison</DIV>
<DIV>608.288.8315</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:01:11 -0400 Harrison Owen <<A
href="mailto:hhowen@comcast.net">hhowen@comcast.net</A>> writes:</DIV>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 10px; MARGIN-LEFT: 10px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid">
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Not to worry! it will work perfect!! Go with the two
concentric circles -- fanning out the rest-- and it will "seem" like a circle.
Above everything else, don't appologize, explain, justify, -- mortify .
Just do it. Would choose this space ? NO! -- will it work? Definitely. Just
make it a circle in your mind.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Harrison</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Harrison Owen<BR>7808 River Falls Dr.<BR>Potomac, MD
20854<BR>USA<BR>301-365-2093<BR>207-763-3261 (summer)<BR>website <A
href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=claudiahb@juno.com href="mailto:claudiahb@juno.com">Claudia
Haack</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 20, 2005 2:59
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Desperately
seeking...</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Thanks, Lisa for your encouragement to work with what "has been
given". </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Claudia</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:32:55 -0700 Lisa Heft <<A
href="mailto:lisaheft@openingspace.net">lisaheft@openingspace.net</A>>
writes:</DIV>
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<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">Claudia
– <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">You
wrote about your upcoming OS with 300 people in a fan-shaped
room:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Has anybody ever had a similar
situation?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What are your
thoughts?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The space appears
to be so awkward and unaccommodating for open space, with stairs and
railings, and limited opportunity to actually create something that
resembles circles.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Maybe I
just worry too much about the space and the right people will come (and
stay?!) and make a circle?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Maybe it is really important to have circles and “fan-shaped” just
isn’t going to work? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">I’m
guessing you tried and tried to get it in another space but this is the
one you have been given.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">I seem
to remember …Brian Bainbridge, was it?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN class=GramE>who</SPAN> spoke
of a great OS in a room with theatre seating (chairs attached to the
floor) and a little tiny flat space up front for an agenda wall?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And…Bernd <SPAN
class=GramE>Weber,</SPAN> was it?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN><SPAN class=GramE>who</SPAN> spoke of a great OS in a room filled
with one incredibly large table and people seated all around it and not
much additional room? <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">And I
myself had an experience with a room that was actually not a meeting room
but an exhibit hallway, l-o-n-g and narrow.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And when I put chairs in sort of
an arc facing a wall (with many ‘concentric’ rows out to the sides) the
fire marshals came in and said that all my chairs had to be locked
together.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">In each
of these cases, the Open Space went beautifully. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I am sure in all our cases we
‘fought’ like crazy to get a better room, but these were the rooms we were
given.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And so I’m sure that
in each of our cases we thought very carefully about the design, and
adjusted in the most creative ways, and carried intention and vision, and
imagined and indicated a circle even when there may not have been one (it
helps to put the signs all around the room and to indicate them as you
explain principles and law to further the circle feeling even in a long
space, I have found). <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">And in
each of these cases, people got themselves to the location that was
created for them to write and announce their topics, they got to wherever
the agenda wall was set up to post their topics, and they held their
discussions all around the room – amazingly, clustering up in little
circles even in locked-down chairs – it’s a natural way to converse, in
circles.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">So I
say just do all the things you know to do, think of the best way possible
to use the space you have, and then enjoy all that Open
Space…<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">Lisa<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; mso-no-proof: yes">___________________________</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face="Trebuchet MS" color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; mso-no-proof: yes; mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">L
i s a<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>H e f
t<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; mso-no-proof: yes">Consultant,
Facilitator, Educator<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; mso-no-proof: yes">O
p e n i n g<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>S p a c
e<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; mso-no-proof: yes">2325
Oregon<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; mso-no-proof: yes">Berkeley,
California<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; mso-no-proof: yes">94705-1106<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>USA<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; mso-no-proof: yes">+01
510 548-8449<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; mso-no-proof: yes"><A
href="mailto:lisaheft@openingspace.net"><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black">lisaheft@openingspace.net</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; mso-no-proof: yes"><A
href="http://www.openingspace.net"><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black">www.openingspace.net</SPAN></FONT></A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Claudia
Haack<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, June
20, 2005 8:46 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Desperately
seeking...</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Desperately
seeking…<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">….a solution to a space issue.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Here is the
situation:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">We are planning a one day Open Space
event for about 300 people.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">To imagine the setting – imagine
classical ballroom, very large oval, with a terrace going around the edge.
<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Then divide the room in
thirds, keeping a central almost square area and two fan-shaped edge
rooms.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>One of which is ours
(with a total capacity of<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>750
people theatre style) with these challenges:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face=Wingdings size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-fareast-font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Wingdings"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">§<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]>It is shaped like a
fan.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face=Wingdings size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-fareast-font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Wingdings"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">§<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]>The “outer” rim of
approximately 44 feed across is about 2<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>feet higher than the “inner”
fan.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face=Wingdings size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-fareast-font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Wingdings"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">§<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]>The “outer” rim is
separated<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>from the lower
space by a metal and glass railing. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face=Wingdings size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-fareast-font-family: Wingdings; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Wingdings"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">§<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]>While the inner space has a
very high ceiling, the outer/upper space does not. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">If an open space of at least 35 to 40
feet is created on the lower part (the only part where you could create an
open space) only about 2 concentric circles can be created accommodating
about 120 people.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The
remainder of the rows would be only half-circles or half-ovals, following
the shape of the terrace. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Has anybody ever had a similar
situation?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What are your
thoughts?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The space appears
to be so awkward and unaccommodating for open space, with stairs and
railings, and limited opportunity to actually create something that
resembles circles.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Maybe I
just worry too much about the space and the right people will come (and
stay?!) and make a circle?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Maybe it is really important to have circles and “fan-shaped” just
isn’t going to work? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks for any suggestions.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Claudia<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Triune Milagro –
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