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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<A title=arturfsilva@yahoo.com href="mailto:arturfsilva@yahoo.com">Artur
Silva</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 13, 2005 6:51 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OSLIST] Fw: The World Cafe
meets Open Space</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Peggy:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Please
see below what I am commenting.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I wonder
if the "freedom shock" was created by OST or by the fact that OST
was preceded by TWC. Interestingly, I made a misreading of your words
“had a felt sense of community very quickly" that I first red "had a false
sense of community very quickly" ;-(<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I would
agree with you that maybe there are conditions that are suitable for
TWC (for instance, the client is not prepared to OST, or the problem doesn't
need a solution for yesterday). But if those conditions don't exist, I
would say that to have TWC before OST has no added value and may
help create (or maximize) the freedom shock; and the intimacy created by
the "intimate groups" can be good, as you have explained, but it can also be
bad in some cases, where the previous small groups (with a fixed number of
4 and a square table) will made more difficult the process of
creating the feeling of belonging to a circle of the "large overall
community" (all the people assembled) needed for OST to work
properly.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">But I
agree with you that beginning in small groups the evening session may be
something worth trying in some situations.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">My two cents<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Artur<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<DIV><BR><B><I>Peggy Holman <peggy@opencirclecompany.com></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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<P>Here's a bit more on World Cafe and OS from Tom Atlee, who just
returned<BR>from a conference "downunder". (...):<BR><BR>> A couple of
points on the OS/WC experiment:<BR>><BR>> It was explicitly noted that
the groups could become more or less than 4<BR>> (the ideal WC size);
this is not significant to OSers, but is definitely<BR>> significant to
WCers.</P>
<P>Perviously Peggy wrote:</P>
<P>(...)</P>
<P>>>A reflection on how TWC affected the dynamic.<BR>>>It was
clear that people had a felt sense of community very
quickly<BR>>>through TWC. I think that the move into OS created that
condition that<BR>>>Harrison calls "freedom shock". It's possible that
the contrast<BR>>>heightened the shock. That said, I believe the sense
of connection<BR>>>created during TWC enabled those who were
distressed to seek out the<BR>>>friends they had made rather than
completely check out (of course, being<BR>>>in a remote location would
have made it difficult to leave!). I wonder if<BR>>>that is a benefit
of a cafe prior to OS --<BR>>>to create relationships that might
support people to stay engaged if they<BR>>>have a tendency towards
freedom shock? (...)</P></BLOCKQUOTE>
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