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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wendy -- the principles were not (as is usually the
case) worked out in advance as prescriptions of what ought to happen. Rather
they were observations by myself and many others as to what actually did happen.
The same would be true with the Law. Not an "ought" but an "is."</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is this right? I don't know, but that is the way it
happened. Whenever I say Principles and Law -- I always smile, because I know
it/they are not what people usually expect.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Harrison</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Harrison Owen<BR>7808 River Falls Dr.<BR>Potomac, MD
20854<BR>USA<BR>301-365-2093<BR>207-763-3261 (summer)<BR>website <A
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<A title=wendy@xe.net href="mailto:wendy@xe.net">Wendy Farmer-O'Neil</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 24, 2005 7:58 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: leverage points &
Control --I wish I had it</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hmmm...this is interesting...<BR><BR>I guess I made an
assumption somewhere along the line here, that the actual<BR>principles of OST
were freedom, self-organization, responsibility, caring,<BR>maturity,
invitation, positivity, productive chaos, self-authorship,<BR>etc....And that
the things we call "The Principles" and stick up on the wall<BR>are actually
just part of the container we create to hold chaos at a<BR>manageable level
for productive self-organization. Let me clarify a bit...I<BR>think I am
seeing "The Principles" as what we use to inspire confidence in<BR>the process
for the participants...most of whom have never encountered OS<BR>before and
find it a bit unsettling at first. They need some reassurance<BR>that
what is happening is normal, okay and will work--in order to relax and<BR>give
it try. In this regard, I think a certain amount of prescription
would<BR>be okay, if not perhaps even necessary? I may be completely
wrong.<BR><BR>This leads me to wondering...How would things change if we just
had the Law?<BR>Not that i'm suggesting this at all...it just makes me go
hmmmm....<BR><BR>And yonder bi-furcated post-metamorphosis caterpillar with
the ricepaper<BR>fans causes updrafts of great significance in the Easternmost
Orient once<BR>again...<BR>Well...that is how Bi-Coloured Python Rock Snakes
always talk.<BR>O Best Beloved...<BR>Wendy<BR><BR>PS, Harrison: I'll
bring my Kipling to Halifax if you'll bring yours...;-)<BR><BR>----- Original
Message -----<BR>From: "Masud Sheikh" <<A
href="mailto:masheikh@COGECO.CA">masheikh@COGECO.CA</A>><BR>To: <<A
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Tuesday, May 24, 2005 3:40 PM<BR>Subject: Re: leverage points<BR><BR><BR>>
Harrison Owen <<A
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wrote:<BR>>>Actually, I don't think it is as much of an "assumption" as
a blinding<BR>> flash of the obvious. Those who came are the only
ones there! And the<BR>> reason they are there is that they cared enough to
come. That does not<BR>> make all those who didn't come bad, immoral, or
terrible -- but the fact<BR>> of the matter is that they didn't care enough
to come. Now maybe the next<BR>> time they would feel differently -- care
more. Make the necessary<BR>> arrangements, or sacrifices! But for
this particular Open Space -- those<BR>> who care came. And CARING is the
sole criteria for entry. That alone makes<BR>> them the "right people." No
Caring -- no come...<BR>>><BR>>>And why would this be true? Well,
I think Open Space is all about passion<BR>> and responsibility. And if you
don't CARE -- no passion, and little hope<BR>> of accepting responsibility.
Who on earth would take responsibility for<BR>> something they don't care
about?<BR>>><BR>> We have been through this before, Harrison. I find
it judgmental (being<BR>> judgmental myself, I know judgment when I see it
:-)) How about changing<BR>> it to: "Those who felt invited, came"?<BR>>
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