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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=836433202-04052005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Hi Harrison, I'm new to the list and have been enjoying the
posts. By way of introduction I live in Melbourne and work as a consultant who
helps organisations grapple with intractable issues. My two main tools are
narrative and complexity. You can probably see why I'm very interested in open
space. This interest was amplified after meeting Brian Bainbridge a couple of
weeks ago and bumping into Chris Corrigan through blog
links.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=836433202-04052005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I'm not too sure that all self-organising systems have
beginnings, middles and ends because what you see depends, in part, on
your observation point and scale of observation. When dealing with say, trust,
which might be conceptualised as a self-organising emergent property of people
interacting, it is difficult to pinpoint the start and end
points. </FONT> </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=836433202-04052005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Regarding health and unhealthy self-organisation perhaps an
indication of health of the system is the length of time order is sustained. I
remember Charles Handy saying that the basic objective of an
organisation is to exists because while it exists it can do things
individuals cannot.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=836433202-04052005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=836433202-04052005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Shawn Callahan</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Harrison
Owen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 4 May 2005 1:22 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B>Subject:</B> FW: Multiple Facilitator Roles
in Open Space<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Michael: clue me in on what a "healthy self-organizing
system" is.<BR>Seems that there might be "unhealthy self-organizing
systems"?<BR>Got examples?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I think – all self-organizing systems, as also all
organisms -- have beginnings, middles, and ends. When it is over, its is over,
and quite often at the end things become a little less than
healthy.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On
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OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Dear Jack and you
others,<BR>clue me in on what a "healthy self-organizing system" is.<BR>Seems
that there might be "unhealthy self-organizing systems"?<BR>Got
examples?<BR>Greetings from </SPAN></FONT>Berlin<BR>mmp<BR><BR><BR>--Original
Message Text---<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Jack
Ricchiuto<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Date:</SPAN></B> Tue, 3 May 2005
07:47:04 -0400<BR><BR>There may be then in all dozens of "facilitators" who
participate in the unfolding of space. In that sense, the power and passion and
responsibility of facilitation is distributed/decentralized, as power and
passion and responsibility is in any healthy self-organizing
system.<BR><BR>Jack<BR><BR>~~~~~~~~~~<BR>jack
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