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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Shawn Wrote: I'm not too
sure that all self-organising systems have beginnings, middles and ends because
what you see depends, in part, on your observation point and scale of
observation. When dealing with say, trust, which might be conceptualised as a
self-organising emergent property of people interacting, it is difficult to
pinpoint the start and end points. </span></font> </p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Regarding health and
unhealthy self-organisation perhaps an indication of health of the system is
the length of time order is sustained. I remember Charles Handy saying that the
basic objective of an organisation is to exists because while it exists it
can do things individuals cannot.</span></font></p>
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12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>No problem – one can certainly
understand individuals and organizations as pre-existing (potentially) and
lasting through all eternity – as memories, electronic wave forms, or
whatever. But at a practical level it would be fair to say that I was not
around in 1934. On a miraculous day, </span></font><font
color=red face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:red'>December 2,
1935</span></font><font color=red face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;
color:red'>, </span></font><font color=red face=Arial><span style='font-family:
Arial;color:red'>Harrison</span></font><font color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:red'> burst on the scene. I began. Since then I
have been causing no small amount of trouble (in the middle of my life). And
sometime, probably not too far in the future, that Troubler will cease. I die,
end, take the big trip. Perhaps I will linger on as a memory. Maybe some idle
thought I had will contribute to some future event. But as an active
participant on this level of existence, I ain’t. I don’t
really see any essential difference between me and organizations in general. We
all come, hang about for a bit, and go. To be sure, some folks are hopeful that
“their” organization (nation, Church, business) will somehow beat
the odds, but to date I have not seen much evidence to support that hope.
During the almost 70 years that I have been privileged to be present here on
Planet Earth I have witnessed more than a few “eternal institutions”
pass on by. Eastern Airlines, Pan American, The British Empire, The Third Reich
(which was supposed to be good for 1000 years) – to name a few. From
where I sit, Beginning, Middle, and End pretty well sums it up.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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color:red'>20845</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>OSLIST</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> [mailto:</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>OSLIST</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Shawn Callahan<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Wednesday, </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>May 04, 2005</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>5:03 AM</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>OSLIST</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Multiple Facilitator
Roles in Open Space</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Hi Harrison, I'm new to
the list and have been enjoying the posts. By way of introduction I live in </span></font><font
size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue'>Melbourne</span></font><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> and work as a consultant
who helps organisations grapple with intractable issues. My two main tools are narrative
and complexity. You can probably see why I'm very interested in open space.
This interest was amplified after meeting Brian Bainbridge a couple of weeks
ago and bumping into Chris Corrigan through blog links.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I'm not too sure that all
self-organising systems have beginnings, middles and ends because what you
see depends, in part, on your observation point and scale of
observation. When dealing with say, trust, which might be conceptualised as a
self-organising emergent property of people interacting, it is difficult to
pinpoint the start and end points. </span></font> </p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Regarding health and
unhealthy self-organisation perhaps an indication of health of the system is
the length of time order is sustained. I remember Charles Handy saying that the
basic objective of an organisation is to exists because while it exists it
can do things individuals cannot.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Regards</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Shawn Callahan</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Harrison Owen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Wednesday, 4
May 2005</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>1:22 AM</span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> FW: Multiple Facilitator
Roles in Open Space</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"
DEFAULT=FACE><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Michael: clue me in on what a
"healthy self-organizing system" is.<br>
Seems that there might be "unhealthy self-organizing systems"?<br>
Got examples?</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I think – all self-organizing systems, as also
all organisms -- have beginnings, middles, and ends. When it is over, its is
over, and quite often at the end things become a little less than healthy.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Harrison</span></font>
</p>
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size=2 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:red'>7808 River Falls Drive</span></font></p>
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size=2 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:red'>Potomac</span></font><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>, </span></font><font
size=2 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:red'>Maryland</span></font><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'> </span></font><font
size=2 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:red'>20845</span></font></p>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Pannwitz, Michael M<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Tuesday, May
03, 2005</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>9:33 AM</span></font><font size=2
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Multiple Facilitator
Roles in Open Space</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dear
Jack and you others,<br>
clue me in on what a "healthy self-organizing system" is.<br>
Seems that there might be "unhealthy self-organizing systems"?<br>
Got examples?<br>
Greetings from </span></font>Berlin<br>
mmp<br>
<br>
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--Original Message Text---<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Jack Ricchiuto<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Date:</span></b> Tue, 3 May 2005 07:47:04 -0400<br>
<br>
There may be then in all dozens of "facilitators" who participate in
the unfolding of space. In that sense, the power and passion and responsibility
of facilitation is distributed/decentralized, as power and passion and
responsibility is in any healthy self-organizing system.<br>
<br>
Jack<br>
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