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<FONT FACE="Times New Roman" DEFAULT="FACE"><FONT SIZE="3" POINTSIZE="12" DEFAULT="SIZE">My hunch was that as long as the forces of self-organisation are active things are just fine.<BR>

If they no longer are, well, thats the end of that system or organisation or country or community with the possibility that a fairly transformed whatever will emerge or not.<BR>

And then, I just have a hard time buying into this "healthy" / "unhealthy" paradigm.<BR>

I am wondering whether its not much rather "selforganising" / "dead".<BR>

mmp<BR>

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Michael: clue me in on what a "healthy self-organizing system" is.<BR>

Seems that there might be "unhealthy self-organizing systems"?<BR>

Got examples?<BR>

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I think - all self-organizing systems, as also all organisms -- have<BR>

beginnings, middles, and ends. When it is over, its is over, and quite =<BR>

often<BR>

at the end things become a little less than healthy.<BR>

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Michael M<BR>

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Subject: Re: Multiple Facilitator Roles in Open Space<BR>

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Dear Jack and you others,<BR>

clue me in on what a "healthy self-organizing system" is.<BR>

Seems that there might be "unhealthy self-organizing systems"?<BR>

Got examples?<BR>

Greetings from Berlin<BR>

mmp<BR>

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From: Jack Ricchiuto<BR>

Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 07:47:04 -0400<BR>

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There may be then in all dozens of "facilitators" who participate in the<BR>

unfolding of space. In that sense, the power and passion and =<BR>

responsibility<BR>

of facilitation is distributed/decentralized, as power and passion and<BR>

responsibility is in any healthy self-organizing system.<BR>

<BR>

Jack<BR>

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<FONT FACE="3D"Times">Michael: clue me in on what a "healthy self-organizing system" is.<BR>

Seems that there might be "unhealthy self-organizing = systems"?<BR>

Got examples?  <BR>

<BR>

   <BR>

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I think   all self-organizing systems, as also all = organisms -- have beginnings, middles, and ends. When it is over, its is over, and = quite often at the end things become a little less than = healthy.  <BR>

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<FONT FACE="3D"Times">Dear Jack and you others,<BR>

clue me in on what a "healthy self-organizing system" is.<BR>

Seems that there might be "unhealthy self-organizing = systems"?<BR>

Got examples?<BR>

Greetings from  Berlin<BR>

mmp<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

--Original Message Text---<BR>

<B>From:</B> Jack Ricchiuto<BR>

<B>Date:</B> Tue, 3 May 2005 = 07:47:04 -0400<BR>

<BR>

There may be then in all dozens of "facilitators" who = participate in the unfolding of space. In that sense, the power and passion and = responsibility of facilitation is distributed/decentralized, as power and passion and responsibility is in any healthy self-organizing system.<BR>

<BR>

Jack<BR>

<BR>

~~~~~~~~~~<BR>

jack ricchiuto<BR>

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