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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Then, we better go to these countries
:...Indonesia, venezuela, netherlands or spain...to be more in the
"endless,eternal now" </FONT></DIV>
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<A title=peter@passionmaps.com href="mailto:peter@passionmaps.com">Peter
Wallman</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:23
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Learning to expand our NOW</DIV>
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<DIV>Harrison</DIV>
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<DIV>I agree with the fragmentation of past, present and future - i think it
is particularly evident in the US. I just pulled out my Trompenaars - "Riding
the Waves of Culture" and looked up the chapter on Time. In it he has some
interesting Venn diagrams of individual cultural interpretations of time.
These show the extent of overlap and the relative importance of each aspect of
time. The intention is to give guidance to people doing business in these
cultures.</DIV>
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<DIV>If his research is correct it is clearly not just Western countries or
influences, eg Russia, China, Netherlands and USA seem to be among the most
fragmented, France, Malaysia, South Korea and Venezuela among the least. I am
fascinated by what drivers would produce these differences - language?
culture? history? media? And perhaps this has changed since 1993 when the book
was written?</DIV>
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<DIV>And the biggest NOWs (ie presents relative to pasts and futures) -
Indonesia, Venezuela, Netherlands and Spain!!</DIV>
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<DIV>Will read your book to illuminate myself further,</DIV>
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<DIV>Peter</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite">Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005
08:10:15 -0400<BR>From: Harrison Owen
<hhowen@comcast.net><BR>Subject: Re: Learning to Expand our
NOW<BR>MIME-Version: 1.0<BR>Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
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<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000>Peter - I
think it is probably fair to say that for most folks on planet Earth the
understanding of the Present (NOW) is much closer to (if not the same as)
the Japanese. Only in the West (or western influenced) areas do you get the
radical disassociation of past, present and future. This has many
interesting effects, not the least of which is our rather interesting view
of History as something over and done with. Of course this understanding
creates jobs for Historians who "study the dead past." Might it not be
better to concentrate on the living present (NOW)? I am not a
psychotherapist (although I may need one) - but this fragmentation of time
represents a distinct disadvantage, I think. Perhaps it is even
pathological. Over the 20 years of The Open Space experiment it has occurred
to me that one of the major impacts of being consciously in Open Space is
that the deep fissures between the Present and the Past and Future are
somehow overcome. Past and future are all included, and are experienced, I
believe, as seamlessly existent in the present moment. Many people don't
notice this, and some who do are quite perplexed - but I think it is a
healing moment. I guess that is why I described Open Space as "Expanding our
Now" in a book of the same title.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial
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color=#ff0000 size=-1>Harrison Owen</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Tahoma size=-1>-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]<B> On Behalf Of</B> Peter
Wallman<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:49 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Learning to Expand our
NOW</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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face="Times New Roman">Hi</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face="Times New Roman">This is my
first post on this list although i have been listening for some time. I am
based in Sydney and am an occasional open space
facilitator.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face="Times New Roman">this wonderful
idea reminds me of a Japan Australia dialogue i attended about a decade ago
in which i was playing the role of the rapporteur. the topic was
'responsibilities to future generations' and was sponsored by the Japanese
Foundation for Future Generations which ,by the way, was one of the major
sponsors of the NGO part of the Rio Earth Summit.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face="Times New Roman">There were
representatives from heritage, environment, business, media etc - an
incredibly rich dialogue ensued but after a while it became obvious that we
were talking about different ideas of past, present and future. I remember
vividly one of the Japanese describing the 'present' in Japanese as meaning
' the dynamic domain in which the past and the future interact' - so it
seems to me that we have something to learn from this.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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size=-2>Peter Wallman</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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size=-2>+61 2 9882 3196</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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size=-2>PO Box 7103 McMahons Pt NSW 2060 Australia</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff
size=-2>"The figure whose attitude best expresses the
passion</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff
size=-2>that moves it is most worthy of praise."</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff
size=-2><I>.....Leonardo da Vinci</I></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Ah -- Funda.
Let me reveal a mystery to you. You just can't get away from<BR>NOW. It is
all you have! Past is over, future hasn't happened yet. What you<BR>got is
NOW. And the only question (at least for me) is how big is your NOW?<BR>If
it is a tiny little "now" desperation quickly sets in. How are you
going<BR>to get everything (you want to do) squeezed into this anorexic
(pathetically<BR>thin) now? You can't! And the more you try the worse it
gets.<BR><BR>But there is an alternative. Just make your NOW BIGGER! It may
sound a<BR>little weird, but with some effort (not to be confused with
work), NOW<BR>becomes big enough to include what we call the Past and also
the Future. The<BR>Past, with all of its richness of experience (including
the pain) is always<BR>available. And the Future is not some far off thing
-- but dreams coming<BR>into focus NOW. For me it is a matter of opening my
(personal) space. You<BR>can do this in all sorts of ways, but (I hate to
say it) Visualization can<BR>help! :-)<BR><BR>Harrison</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV><X-SIGSEP><PRE>--
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=-2>Peter Wallman</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=-2>+61 2 9882 3196</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=-2>PO Box 7103 McMahons Pt NSW 2060
Australia</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=-2>peter@passionmaps.com</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=-2>www.passionmaps.com</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=-2>"The figure whose attitude best expresses the
passion</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=-2>that moves it is most worthy of
praise."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=-2><I>.....Leonardo da Vinci</I></FONT></DIV>
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