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Thank you Harrison - I just LOVE it when I get a short sermon like that
in the morning!<br>
Lovelovelove<span class="moz-smiley-s5"><span> :-D </span></span><br>
Agneta<br>
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Harrison Owen wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Ah -- Funda. Let me reveal a mystery to you. You just can't get away from
NOW. It is all you have! Past is over, future hasn't happened yet. What you
got is NOW. And the only question (at least for me) is how big is your NOW?
If it is a tiny little "now" desperation quickly sets in. How are you going
to get everything (you want to do) squeezed into this anorexic (pathetically
thin) now? You can't! And the more you try the worse it gets.
But there is an alternative. Just make your NOW BIGG<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:desperationquicklysetsin.Howareyougoingtogeteverything(youwanttodo)squeezedintothisanorexic(patheticallythin)now?Youcan't!Andthemoreyoutrytheworseitgets.Butthereisanalternative.JustmakeyourNOWBIGGER!Itmaysoundalittleweird,butwithsomeeffort(nottobeconfusedwithwork),NOWbecomesbigenoughtoincludewhatwecallthePastandalsotheFuture.ThePast,withallofitsrichnessofexperience(includingthepain)isalwaysavailable.AndtheFutureisnotsomefaroffthing--butdreamscomingintofocusNOW.Formeitisamatterofopeningmy(personal)space.Youcandothisinallsortsofways,but(Ihatetosayit)Visualizationcanhelp!:-)HarrisonHarrisonOwen7808RiverFallsDrivePotomac,Maryland20845Phone301-365-2093OpenSpaceTrainingwww.openspaceworld.comOpenSpaceInstitutewww.openspaceworld.orgPersonalwebsitehttp://mywebpages.comcast.net/hhowen/index.htmOSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDUTosubscribe,unsubscribe,changeyouroptions,viewthearchivesVisit:htt
p://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html-----OriginalMessage-----From:OSLIST[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]OnBehalfOfFundaOralSent:Thursday,April21,20052:37PMTo:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDUSubject:Re:Raffi,genocideandOSTMasud,Thereseisright,thisdiscussionmakesanegativeaffectonme.Somethingthatihavebeenobservingisbecomingmoreclearandiwilltrytoshareitwithyou.Whenwetalkaboutthepast,andwespendourenegrythere...whetherit'spositiveornegative..itbecomesaloseoftimeandenergyaftersomepoint....becausewemayskipNOWandneglecttheneedsofnow...thesameisvalidforthefuture.Thisisalsowhyiamdoubtfulaboutthemethodssuchasvisualization.Sometimeswhenilosemyselfamongdifferentfeelings(positive,negative)thinkingaboutthepastordreamingaboutthefuture...itrytopullmyselfbacktonow....dealwithwhatisneededtobedonenow.Now....thekitchenneedstobecleaned,iamgoing....::))Funda-----OriginalMessage-----From:">" desperation quickly sets in. How are you going
to get everything (you want to do) squeezed into this anorexic (pathetically
thin) now? You can't! And the more you try the worse it gets.
But there is an alternative. Just make your NOW BIGGER! It may sound a
little weird, but with some effort (not to be confused with work), NOW
becomes big enough to include what we call the Past and also the Future. The
Past, with all of its richness of experience (including the pain) is always
available. And the Future is not some far off thing -- but dreams coming
into focus NOW. For me it is a matter of opening my (personal) space. You
can do this in all sorts of ways, but (I hate to say it) Visualization can
help! :-)
Harrison
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-----Original Message-----
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Funda Oral
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 2:37 PM
To: OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: Raffi, genocide and OST
Masud, Therese is right, this discussion makes a negative affect on me.
Something that i have been observing is becoming more clear and
i will try to share it with you.
When we talk about the past, and we spend our enegry there...whether it's
positive
or negative..it becomes a lose of time and energy after some
point....because we
may skip NOW and neglect the needs of now...the same is valid for the
future.
This is also why i am doubtful about the methods such as visualization.
Sometimes when i lose myself among different feelings ( positive, negative)
thinking about the past
or dreaming about the future...i try to pull myself back to now....deal with
what is needed to be
done now.
Now....the kitchen needs to be cleaned, i am going.... ::))
Funda
----- Original Message -----
From: "</a>Masud Sheikh" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:masheikh@COGECO.CA"><masheikh@COGECO.CA></a>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU"><OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU></a>
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<pre wrap="">On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:01:01 -0700, Therese Fitzpatrick
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<pre wrap="">Funda, such an event would not be negative. .. it could be wonderful
and life affirming. And it could unleash new, positive initiatives in
the world.
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<pre wrap="">Please forgive me for reacting, Therese.
"Would not be negative....." - Is that not highly judgmental, Therese - an
opinion expressed as fact?
Masud
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