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In a message dated 3/22/05 3:47:04 AM, raffi@bk.ru writes:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE CITE STYLE="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" TYPE="CITE"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" FACE="Geneva" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" SIZE="2">When you use a super-microscope on matter you find that at the<BR>
micro-level there is in fact no such thing as "matter", rather all you<BR>
have is a field of energy, lots of space.<BR>
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Raffi,<BR>
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Herein Mr. Bentov was somewhat inaccurate (I read that book at least 20 years ago, maybe more, so my recall is very clouded), there have been advances since his time in understanding. Dancing Wu Li Masters among them (Zukav). There </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" FACE="Geneva" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" SIZE="2"><I>is</I></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" FACE="Geneva" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" SIZE="2"> such a thing as matter. What there is, is something deciding what YOU want it to be, particles (matter) or waves (energy). The observer and the observed are in a dance together at that level. There have been some quite marvelous and disconcerting experiments relating to consciousness and the particle/wave form, specifically the slit experiments, which I'll have to find again so I get it right, if your interested. There has also been some marvelous work on the nature of the photon, also disconcerting to many who were look for hard little billiard balls of matter.<BR>
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Stalking the Wild Pendulum has a number of very interesting ideas in it but........we don't much operate at the quantum level in our ordinary lives. Not saying our minds don't, but the skin bag of bones and flesh I call "me" doesn't, so I don't get too concerned about it, yet. I'm not able to pass through walls yet by raising my vibratory level to slip between the cracks in the continuum. I think we are pretty well grounded in this reality while we are alive. Haven't seen any bodies levitating thru the air lately, either. Fantasy is wonderful but it is just that, fantasy, so far in our evolution. <BR>
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OS isn't fantasy, it is definitely spiritual and incredibly releasing for those used to the strictures of the usual meeting. Its power arises from the collective wisdom of the small groups making their own choices. Radical thought, that. Anyway, you already know all that so I'll stop. Guess I'll re-read Bentov and see what I think 20 or 25 years later. btw, his little drawings were delightful.<BR>
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Paul Everett</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" FACE="Geneva" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" SIZE="2"></FONT></HTML>
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