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of the “presencing” that we all have experienced and practiced may
not be all that hard to understand. After all it was not invented at MIT. But
Peter Senge certainly knows, so maybe the connection will be made.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b></span></font><font
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, April 03, 2005 12:39
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> "Presencing"
and OST</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Dear </span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>OSers</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>:</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>A bit by chance (as it
normally happens) I came across the text below. "Presencing" is a new
buzzword coined by the likes of the SoL mentors - and is sometimes called
"the sixth discipline" (and that is not a very good presentation, if
one knows what the other five "disciplines" were unable to deliver).
But the text is really interesting for us, I think.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>First there is no reference
to OST and I don't think the Author knows about it (the more close he</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> gets</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
is to refer "appreciative inquiry" and that is not close </span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>enough</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
in my opinion).</span></font></p>

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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>BUT a lot of words
and phrases that could also be written by one of us are pulling up in every page.
Some examples:</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>- letting go</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>- deep breathing</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>- being in the now</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>- selfless</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>- bringing the collective
new into reality</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>- "the old social
body goes through a sort of death-like transformation that allows for a
different quality of social substance to re-emerge"</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>- "co-creating and
giving birth to a new reality"</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>- participatory
consciousness</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>- intervention depends on
the inner condition of the intervener - "when you open your soul and when
you bring your whole heart into the room, it changes the structure of the
room" </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>- emergence</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>- from "reflective
dialogue" to "generative dialogue"</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>- "suspension of the
habitual judgment, thus opening a space that allows for a more deep and
profound encounter with the phenomenon"</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>- the East tradition and
the emptiness </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>- (objective:) "</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>setting</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
the organizational contexts and infrastructures that will allow the new to
continually unfold" (OSO?)</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>- "The experience of
presencing is twofold: co-creating and giving birth to a new reality and, at
the same time, being transformed and born into a new world by the very same
process" (and here is a good description of "metanoia", I add).</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>As they don't seem to use
OST but "leadership laboratories" I wonder if and how they are more
effective than Argyris' ones to change from Model I to Model II. Nevertheless,
some of the descriptions seem to be only possible if the Author has some
vivid experiences of what he is talking about. Somehow, without OST, he has
some metanoic experiences - similar to the ones OST normally allows for.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>If someone wants to read
the text and discuss it in the list or in private I will be very interested</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>From a sunny Lisbon
today </span></font></p>

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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Artur</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>PS: There is also a book
on "Presencing" co-authored by Senge, Sharmer and others. Did
anyone read it?      </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>---------------------- The
link to download the text in PDF</span></font></p>

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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>

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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Presencing -- Learning
>From the Future As It Emerges -- On the Tacit <br>
Dimension of Leading Revolutionary Change - by Claus Otto Scharmer (MIT/SOL)<br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'><a href="http://www.kmcluster.com/presencing.pdf" target="_blank"><font
color="#003399"><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#003399'>http://www.kmcluster.com/presencing.pdf</span></font></a></span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>

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