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<h4> ...and in Sweden we sometimes have "a corpse in the wardrobe" (ett
lik i garderoben), or we get the feeling that there is "a burried
dog"(en hund begraven).</h4>
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<h4>From Uppsala, where the spring arrived today and I saw the first
butterfly - a yellow one, which brings luck <span class="moz-smiley-s5"><span>
:-D </span></span><br>
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<h4>Agneta Setterwall</h4>
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TYASTO wrote:
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<div><span class="890342112-24032005"><font size="4">Hi Esther and
Carla,</font></span></div>
<div><span class="890342112-24032005"><font size="4">From Russian I
can add to
</font></span></div>
<div><span class="890342112-24032005"><font size="4">-the skeleton in
the cupboard
(skelet v shkaphu in Russian).</font></span></div>
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<div><span class="890342112-24032005"><font size="4">Best regards
from very snowy
Novosibirsk,</font></span></div>
<div><span class="890342112-24032005"><font size="4">Marina
Tyasto</font></span></div>
<div><span class="890342112-24032005"><font size="4"><a
href="mailto:tyasto@sapa.nsk.su">tyasto@sapa.nsk.su</a></font></span></div>
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face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original Message-----<br>
<b>From:</b> Vliex, Carla (cvl) [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:CVL@tg.nl">mailto:CVL@tg.nl</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 24, 2005 4:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Metaphor for Naming Elephants in UK<br>
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<div><span class="965543810-24032005"><font size="4">hi Esther</font></span></div>
<div><span class="965543810-24032005"></span> </div>
<div><span class="965543810-24032005"><font size="4">one thing more
we all have in common, the issue's we always try to avoid. Some
metaphors we use in holland:</font></span></div>
<div><span class="965543810-24032005"><font size="4">- the skeleton
in the cupboard (in dutch; het lijk in de kast) </font></span></div>
<div><span class="965543810-24032005"><font size="4">- moving
aroud the hot porridge (in dutch om de hete brij heen draaien) </font></span></div>
<div><span class="965543810-24032005"></span> </div>
<div><span class="965543810-24032005"><font size="4">I am curious
like you about other metaphors </font></span></div>
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<p><font face="Arial" size="2">Met vriendelijke groet,</font> </p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2">drs. Carla Vliex</font> </p>
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face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original Message-----<br>
<b>From:</b> OSLIST [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>]<b>On
Behalf Of </b>Esther Ewing<br>
<b>Sent:</b> donderdag 24 maart 2005 01:52<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Metaphor for Naming Elephants in UK<br>
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size="4"> </font>
<div><font id="role_document" color="#400080"
face="Palatino Linotype" size="4"><strong><font size="4">Hi all:</font></strong></font></div>
<font id="role_document" color="#400080" face="Palatino Linotype"
size="4"> </font>
<div><font id="role_document" color="#400080"
face="Palatino Linotype" size="4"><strong><font size="4">I would like
to specifically address my question to those OS members in UK or
anywhere else or to anyone who knows the answer to my question.</font></strong></font></div>
<font id="role_document" color="#400080" face="Palatino Linotype"
size="4"> </font>
<div><font id="role_document" color="#400080"
face="Palatino Linotype" size="4"><strong></strong> </font></div>
<font id="role_document" color="#400080" face="Palatino Linotype"
size="4"> </font>
<div><font id="role_document" color="#400080"
face="Palatino Linotype" size="4"><strong><font size="4">In Canada
many of us OS folks have used the metaphor of the Dead Moose to signify
the sticky tough issue that no one wants to discuss, that everyone
knows is there and which is blocking creativity and progress. And that
people discuss anyway privately.</font></strong></font></div>
<font id="role_document" color="#400080" face="Palatino Linotype"
size="4"> </font>
<div><font id="role_document" color="#400080"
face="Palatino Linotype" size="4"><strong></strong> </font></div>
<font id="role_document" color="#400080" face="Palatino Linotype"
size="4"> </font>
<div><font id="role_document" color="#400080"
face="Palatino Linotype" size="4"><strong><font size="4">Sue Hammond
and her colleague Andrea Mayfield have published a brilliant book
called The Thin Book of Naming Elephants - Discussing the
Undiscussibles (<a href="http://www.thinbookpublishing.com">www.thinbookpublishing.com</a>)
and if you haven't seen it or read it, you should - it's brilliant.</font></strong></font></div>
<font id="role_document" color="#400080" face="Palatino Linotype"
size="4"> </font>
<div><font id="role_document" color="#400080"
face="Palatino Linotype" size="4"><strong></strong> </font></div>
<font id="role_document" color="#400080" face="Palatino Linotype"
size="4"> </font>
<div><font id="role_document" color="#400080"
face="Palatino Linotype" size="4"><strong><font size="4">Naming
Elephants is a metaphor that seems easily understood and recognized in
the US (and indeed in Canada). However, in some discussions with
clients in the UK, it has had to be explained.</font></strong></font></div>
<font id="role_document" color="#400080" face="Palatino Linotype"
size="4"> </font>
<div><font id="role_document" color="#400080"
face="Palatino Linotype" size="4"><strong></strong> </font></div>
<font id="role_document" color="#400080" face="Palatino Linotype"
size="4"> </font>
<div><font id="role_document" color="#400080"
face="Palatino Linotype" size="4"><strong><font size="4">Does anyone
know what the equivalent metaphor might be in UK? This would help me
market my services to my UK clients. </font></strong></font></div>
<font id="role_document" color="#400080" face="Palatino Linotype"
size="4"> </font>
<div><font id="role_document" color="#400080"
face="Palatino Linotype" size="4"><strong></strong> </font></div>
<font id="role_document" color="#400080" face="Palatino Linotype"
size="4"> </font>
<div><font id="role_document" color="#400080"
face="Palatino Linotype" size="4"><strong><font size="4">And for fun,
I would be curious to know what the equivalent metaphor would be in
other parts of Europe or the rest of the world (translated literally
into English). For example, is it un chat mort (a dead cat) or
something else in German or Danish or Swedish etc. What do you say in
Australia for example? Or New Zealand? Or Scotland?</font></strong></font></div>
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face="Palatino Linotype" size="4"><font family="SERIF" ptsize="14"
color="#400080" face="Palatino Linotype" lang="0" size="4"><b>Esther
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