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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000>" I sometimes think that people are
positively frightened to death that they might succeed "..wrote
Harrison </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000080 size=2>such a silence and confusion
reading this sentence, </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>and so funny to think about
that </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>thank you </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000>"and yet in the name of preservation of
power and control" </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>so maybe the aim is not so much
power or control.....but it's to keep the game we are familiar
with at all costs</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>rather then moving to the
unknown</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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size=2>Funda </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 24, 2005 6:59
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Help for my manager, (Crazy
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=red size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mike Wrote:
</SPAN></FONT><FONT size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I have thought about
this phenomenon a great deal, as I live in an org and with the stench of dead
moose all around! I think perhaps people are comfortable with the stink as
long as they can hold onto their ego, power or control. When we as an org use
less open formats for our meetings and gatherings I sub consciously go into a
naughty school boy routine. I'm expected to sit passively and swallow what is
going to happen. Perhaps, now I've sampled the sweet aroma of open space, I am
yelling "open the bloody window I can't stand it any
longer!"</SPAN></FONT></P>
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to me the extent to which people will tolerate a state of absolute misery in
the name of preserving ego, power and control. It is often said they don’t
have a choice (mortgage, kids, etc) but we all have a choice, however we may
not be prepared to deal with the consequences of that choice. However, in a
totally tragic fashion they typically end up with consequences as bad, or
worse, than the ones they were seeking to avoid! Nasty things like burnout,
substance abuse, breakdown and the like. And it is not just about the “human
side” of all of this – but even in the area of profit and business growth you
see the same sorts of things. I sometimes think that people are positively
frightened to death that they might succeed – that they might actually make a
lot of money! We all know that when people are turned loose (some real Open
Space) the possibility space is simply mind-boggling, and yet in the name of
preservation of power and control all that possibility space is avoided – to
the ultimate detriment of the bottom line. Weird!</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Mike
Copeland<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday,
February 23, 2005 3:28 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Help for my manager, (Crazy
like a fox)</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Good on ya Michael!</SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Great stuff I loved the way you put it:</SPAN></FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> when we look in to the
usual rhetoric, I find that lots of folks just can't defend or explain
it. often folks end up using the empty standards as if they were
true.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">You have put very beautifully a phenomenon I
experience also when dealing with people about open space. : this great fear
that a new way will be ineffective while the old way is so ineffective, stale
and smelly it's a dead moose! Open space is given these huge goals that unless
they are met it is doomed and the dead moose is then dragged out, and
venerated once again. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I may be in a different situation from you in that I
work as a facilitator within an org. and possibly I suffer from that thing of
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">"a prophet is not without honor except in his own
home"</SPAN></FONT> <BR>
<FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Jesus Christ</SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I have thought about this phenomenon a great deal, as
I live in an org and with the stench of dead moose all around! I think perhaps
people are comfortable with the stink as long as they can hold onto their ego,
power or control. When we as an org use less open formats for our meetings and
gatherings I sub consciously go into a naughty school boy routine. I'm
expected to sit passively and swallow what is going to happen. Perhaps, now
I've sampled the sweet aroma of open space, I am yelling "open the bloody
window I can't stand it any longer!"</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">All the Best</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Mike Copeland</SPAN></FONT> </P>
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