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<DIV>Harrison, drawing lines is interesting business, considering Buddhist
teacher Thich Nhat Hahn's suggestion that there is no being, only interbeing.
His practice is seeing the people in the objects and the objects in the people.
When nothing exists by itself, it contains everything else - and so the respect
for every quantum wave in the universal field.</DIV>
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<DIV>Jack</DIV>
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<DIV>------------Original Message------------</DIV>
<DIV>From: Harrison Owen <hhowen@comcast.net></DIV>
<DIV>To: OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</DIV>
<DIV>Date: Tue, Feb-15-2005 8:33 AM</DIV>
<DIV>Subject: Re: On self-organizing</DIV>
<DIV>Masud -- I know the devil made me do it -- but when I saw your words,
"For</DIV>
<DIV>instance, do we give more respect to "non-living" weapons systems or
to</DIV>
<DIV>living "human systems"?" -- I found myself answering, "Human Systems,
of</DIV>
<DIV>course, at least usually -- but what happens when the human systems are
in</DIV>
<DIV>fact weapons systems? And where do you draw the line between them
anyhow?</DIV>
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<DIV>Harrison</DIV>
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<DIV>From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of
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<DIV>Sheikh</DIV>
<DIV>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 8:03 AM</DIV>
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<DIV>Filiz Telek wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>>Masud,</DIV>
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<DIV>>I guess you are referring TV as non-living in the physical
sense...well,</DIV>
<DIV>>doesn't it all depend on how we define living versus non-living?
:)</DIV>
<DIV>>Maybe I am taking your comment too literally...but here are some
quotes</DIV>
<DIV>>that might be interesting...</DIV>
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<DIV>Thank you for the quotes, Filiz. You are right that I am talking
only</DIV>
<DIV>about the physical TV set. And my comment that "perhaps I understand"
was</DIV>
<DIV>related to the sort of quotes that you gave.</DIV>
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<DIV>Of course, in one sense, "humans never die". Buried or cremated,
they</DIV>
<DIV>change form, and in some way, feed the new cycle of life.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>But does not there need to be a difference bertween the way we
"treat"</DIV>
<DIV>living systems vs "non-living" systems? For instance, do we give
more</DIV>
<DIV>respect to "non-living" weapons systems or to living "human
systems"?</DIV>
<DIV>Masud</DIV>
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