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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We would be naïve to think that there are
only good guys against the bad guys in this story Judy. Force is force, whether
you impose it on innocent people or tyrannies.. And it will only come back as
force in return. Simple scientific fact I would say… Not to mention how many
innocent people got killed during this war…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>What happened to Gandhis and Mandelas? I
think they proved the whole world what powers can be found in stillness,
peaceful activism sprung from within. Nothing do with a group hug but genuine, molecular
change that comes as a force of nature. If we are going to talk about
intervention, let us talk about constructive and participative intervention,
not a destructive one. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>filiz<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Spady's<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February 10, 2005
5:24 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Survival of the
Cooperative</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue'>Funda writes:</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue'>"a <strong><b><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>long
term</span></font></b></strong> </span></font><font size=2 color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>democracy
(at least freedom of expression for everybody) can not be created<strong><b><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>by force</span></font></b></strong><em><i><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>."</span></font></i></em><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>The big question I have for you to think about is...Who has <strong><b><u><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>force</span></font></u></b></strong>
been used against in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Iraq</st1:place></st1:country-region>
war? It isn't the people who are trying to build the democratic
society. The <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">U.S.</st1:place></st1:country-region>
and it's allies <strong><b><i><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;
font-style:italic'>forced</span></font></i></b></strong> <u>the tyrants</u> out
so that the Iraqi people are no longer supressed and <em><i><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>can</span></font></i></em> live in long term
democracy. So.......how can you say that it won't work?? You have
to break it down to who the force is being used on. Can the tyrants like
Saddam freely express themselves??........absolutely not. He gave up that
right when he chose to kill innocent people.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>I guess "time will tell" if the long term democracy
works in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Iraq</st1:place></st1:country-region>
but at this point, I don't think you can accurately conclude that it
won't......<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>As for your comments on why we can't <em><i><u><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>discuss</span></font></u></i></em> 'this and that'
and all have a group hug........do you honestly think that's even possible with
people like Saddam??.....or UBL? Please.........<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Judy<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:fundaoral@ttnet.net.tr" title="fundaoral@ttnet.net.tr">Funda Oral</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU"
title="OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>
Thursday, February 10, 2005 6:57 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> Survival of the Cooperative<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>from the essay :<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>"The
researchers at the Santa Fe Institute have denominated self-organizing<br>
systems </span></font><strong><b><font color=green face="Times New Roman"><span
style='color:green'>Complex Adaptive Systems. The key word is adaptive, which
indicates</span></font></b></strong><b><font color=green><span
style='color:green;font-weight:bold'><br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">that the system, be that molecular or
human, is constantly adapting to its</font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">internal and external environment
seeking a better fit</font></b></strong></span></font></b><font color=green><span
style='color:green'>,</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'>
a better way of<br>
getting along in the world. This might also be called learning, for the<br>
system is not only finding better ways to be, it is also remembering them<br>
for future use. In short a body of knowledge is being built which will<br>
enable higher levels of survival."</span></font><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>"Collective
consciousness in this case is not to be confused with deep shared consciousness
manifest in the Jungian archetypes, but rather a functional intelligence that
appeared capable of observing a situation, consider the options, and then take
concerted action – all without a word spoken and in an incredibly short period
of time (minutes). How this works, I don’t have a clue, but in the situations
where the </span></font><b><font color=green><span style='color:green;
font-weight:bold'>collective consciousness</span></font></b><font color=black><span
style='color:black'> became manifest I found myself reminded of the </span></font><b><font
color=green><span style='color:green;font-weight:bold'>behavioral shift</span></font></b><font
color=black><span style='color:black'> of the ant colony when they moved from
random search to well ordered columns, bringing home the tart, all of which
seemed to happen with the snap of a finger. I suppose if ants can do it, humans
might be capable as well."<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>some
reflections onwars, cooperation, open space etc ;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>I
agree that a sudden need or crises cancause quick self organisation and a shift
in collective consciousness (i.e wars, natural disasters).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>However
self organisation for aquick reaction doesn't mean that a <strong><b><font
face="Times New Roman">healthy</font></b></strong> community ( democracy,
peace, long term cooperation, civilization)</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>has
been built.</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>I
studied business and not psychology or sociology but from life experiencesi
know that "fear" prevents</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'> </span></font><font color=blue><span
style='color:blue'>a open space, a <strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">long
term</font></b></strong> democracy</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>(at
least freedom of expression for everybody) can not be created<strong><b><font
face="Times New Roman">by force</font></b></strong><em><i><font
face="Times New Roman">.</font></i></em></span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Wars
are different then naturaldisasters as they are made by human.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Survivalshould
be the easiest achievement when a group of human being comes
together. So the big question for me is why we are still at that level </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>after
14M years? why we can not discuss how we can develop alltogether in peace,joy
and richness? why we don't discuss how we can </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>establish
a better cooperation, better ways of exchangeamong different cultures,
religions, regions, countries etc ?</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Funda</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:jack@designinglife.com" title="jack@designinglife.com">Jack
Ricchiuto</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU"
title="OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE..EDU</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>
Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:20 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> Re: Survival of the Cooperative<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>Reflecting the way ecologists today are starting
to redefine "fitness", author Robert Ulanowicz defines fitness as
“the ability of a species to play a role in the web of ecological processes.”</span></font><font
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Jack<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>~~~~~~~~~~<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>jack ricchiuto<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>two.one.six/three.seven.three/seven.four.seven.five<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><a href="http://www.designinglife.com">www.designinglife.com</a> /
<a href="http://www.appreciativeleadership.org">www.appreciativeleadership..org</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>------------Original Message------------<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>From: Steve Gawron <gawron@megsinet.net><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Date: Wed, Feb-9-2005 6:02 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Subject: Re: Survival of the Cooperative<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Hello Don and all,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>There is an interesting book by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi which
supports that<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>concept of survival of ideas in a Darwinian context. The
book is called<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>"Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience", ISBN
0-06-016253-8<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>In brief, a "flow" experience is akin to reading a book
you cannot put down.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>I hope you enjoy the read.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Steve Gawron<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>----- Original Message -----<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>From: "Don Ferretti" <dferrett@placer.ca.gov><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>To: <<st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 4:34 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Subject: Survival of the Cooperative<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>> I can give you a lot of detail to back this up but I will not
take up<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>> air time here to do that. I just wanted to say that I know
for a fact<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>> that the "survival of the fittest" mantra was not
even spoken by <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Darwin</st1:place></st1:City>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>> But, his whole body of work seems to have been boiled down to
that idea.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>> I have my theory as to why that is. But, if you really look
at all of<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>> that work, the role of cooperation, adaptation and
flexibility plays a<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>> much more important role. We did not make it this far through<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>> competition, but through pervasive cooperation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>> <a href="http://placer.networkofcare.org">http://placer.networkofcare.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>> www.placer.ca.gov/cfc<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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