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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Funda – you certainly stirred up the
pot! I just love to see a profusion of confusion here on the LIST. If nothing
else, it makes it very clear, there are just human beings here. Nothing more,
nothing less. And confusion is that wonderful state that muddles made up minds
so that a little space is opened for a new idea or two. And who knows, we
may go a lot deeper?? The points you made are all cogent. I don’t know
that I have any answers, but I do have some thoughts and observations –</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>“I agree that a sudden need or crises
can cause quick self organization and a shift in collective consciousness
(i.e. wars, natural disasters). However self organization for a quick
reaction doesn't mean that a <strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">healthy</font></b></strong>
community (democracy, peace, long term cooperation, civilization) has been
built”.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:red'>I think it would be a mistake to understand
self-organization only in terms of a “quick reaction.” A quick
reaction is certainly something that a SOS (Self Organizing System) can do, it
may also be the most visible, but that is only a very small part of the story
as I would understand it. From where I sit it is A</span></font><font
color=red><span style='color:red'>LL</span></font><font color=red><span
style='color:red'> self-organizing, and that would include movements toward
long term cooperation. And a healthy community is one that is constantly adapting
to a changing world seeking the most cooperative relationships possible –
if only because they take a lot less energy and are much more productive. There
are also sick communities, and they will die. They may seek to save themselves
by building walls, but in fact they are curtailing their possibility space, and
will eventually starve to death. Rather like ants that refuse to leave the Hill,
they may think they have preserved an ideal society, but it is going to get
awful hungry.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>“I studied business and not
psychology or sociology but from life experiences I know
that "fear" prevents a open space, a <strong><b><font
face="Times New Roman">long term</font></b></strong> democracy (at least
freedom of expression for everybody) can not be created <strong><b><font
face="Times New Roman">by force</font></b></strong><em><i><font
face="Times New Roman">.”</font></i></em></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:red'>Force is a very funny thing. I guess another
name for it would be Power – and we had a conversation about that just
recently. For me the real issue is not whether force is good or bad (I rather
think it is neutral) – but what do you do with it? I would certainly
agree with you that you cannot force somebody (group) to be free, to freely
express them selves, to be democratic. If nothing else this is a total
contradiction in terms. On the other hand force clearly can be used (and has
been used) to open up some space so that people can express themselves freely.
An example from my side of the puddle would be the American Revolution. King
George was not exactly a democratic figure, and he certainly found the free
expression of those in his colonies to be annoying, particularly when that
expression ran in the face of the Royal Policy. In short the Boston Tea Party
was not his favorite event, and he sent a whole mess of soldiers to shut it
down. Us colonials had a different idea, and the Tea Party turned into a
shooting war – which George lost. One could argue, as I would, that the
use of force in 1775 in fact created the conditions for a long term Democracy which
we in the </span></font><font color=red><span style='color:red'>USA</span></font><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> have been enjoying for more than 200 years. 200
years, of course, is not for ever, but it is not bad for a start. </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:red'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:red'>So what do you say about </span></font><font
color=red><span style='color:red'>Iraq</span></font><font color=red><span
style='color:red'>? Personally I can’t think of a single thing that the
American Administration has gotten right on this one. The justification,
planning, and in many ways, execution of this war has been abysmal. This is not
to say that many of our troops in the field have not performed admirably (some
haven’t) – but I think it is far from clear why they (the Troops)
should have been given the opportunity to perform at all. Having said all of
that, the fact is we did our “Shock and Awe,” toppled a statue and
a nasty person, Saddam. Now What? Everybody in the whole world could go on for
ever trying to assign blame (and there is a lot of blame to be assigned) OR?
Or what ?? </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:red'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:red'>At this point human error (George’s)
and a Tsunami are equivalent. Both open space, create a lot of destruction, to
say nothing of collateral damage – but equally provide the opportunity
for something new. And what will the “new” look like? That for me
is the critical question, and I leave the blame-game to anybody who cares to
play it. The Iraqi people have a major opportunity, and what are they going to
do with it??? I don’t know. For sure, they will not opt for American Style
Democracy – which works pretty much only in </span></font><font
color=red><span style='color:red'>America</span></font><font color=red><span
style='color:red'>. Being American. I like it, but nobody else has to. There
is nobody in the whole world who can tell the Iraqis what to do (a lot will
try) – but this much is clear to me. These folks have an opportunity to
create a future for themselves. Sitting here in the </span></font><font
color=red><span style='color:red'>US</span></font><font color=red><span
style='color:red'> – I say Go For it! Don’t listen to George. Don’t
listen to anybody! (Except yourselves!) Take your future in your hands –
it is the only one you have got. </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:red'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:red'>So I don’t know that this advances
anything – but it is kind of where I am at. </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:red'> </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:red'>Harrison</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:red'>PS</span></font><font color=blue><span
style='color:blue'> “Survival should be the easiest achievement
when a group of human being comes together. So the big question for me is
why we are still at that level after 14M years? why we can not discuss how
we can develop altogether in peace, joy and richness? why we don't
discuss how we can establish a better cooperation, better ways of
exchange among different cultures, religions, regions, countries etc ?”</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:red'>Funda – I think this is what we have
been talking about every since. We make a little progress. We lose something.
But the conversation goes on.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>OSLIST</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> [mailto:</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>OSLIST</span></font><font
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b></span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Funda
Oral</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February 10, 2005
8:57 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>OSLIST</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Survival of the Cooperative</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>from
the essay :</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>"The
researchers at the Santa Fe Institute have denominated self-organizing<br>
systems </span></font><strong><b><font color=green face="Times New Roman"><span
style='color:green'>Complex Adaptive Systems. The key word is adaptive, which
indicates</span></font></b></strong><b><font color=green><span
style='color:green;font-weight:bold'><br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">that the system, be that molecular or
human, is constantly adapting to its</font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">internal and external environment
seeking a better fit</font></b></strong></span></font></b><font color=green><span
style='color:green'>,</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'>
a better way of<br>
getting along in the world. This might also be called learning, for the<br>
system is not only finding better ways to be, it is also remembering them<br>
for future use. In short a body of knowledge is being built which will<br>
enable higher levels of survival."</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>"Collective
consciousness in this case is not to be confused with deep shared consciousness
manifest in the Jungian archetypes, but rather a functional intelligence that
appeared capable of observing a situation, consider the options, and then take
concerted action – all without a word spoken and in an incredibly short
period of time (minutes). How this works, I don’t have a clue, but in the
situations where the </span></font><b><font color=green><span style='color:
green;font-weight:bold'>collective consciousness</span></font></b><font
color=black><span style='color:black'> became manifest I found myself reminded
of the </span></font><b><font color=green><span style='color:green;font-weight:
bold'>behavioral shift</span></font></b><font color=black><span
style='color:black'> of the ant colony when they moved from random search to
well ordered columns, bringing home the tart, all of which seemed to happen
with the snap of a finger. I suppose if ants can do it, humans might be capable
as well."</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>some
reflections onwars, cooperation, open space etc ;</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>I agree that a
sudden need or crises cancause quick self organisation and a shift in
collective consciousness (i.e wars, natural disasters).</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>However self
organisation for aquick reaction doesn't mean that a <strong><b><font
face="Times New Roman">healthy</font></b></strong> community ( democracy,
peace, long term cooperation, civilization)</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>has been
built.</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>I studied
business and not psychology or sociology but from life experiencesi know
that "fear" prevents</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'> </span></font><font color=blue><span
style='color:blue'>a open space, a <strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">long
term</font></b></strong> democracy</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>(at least
freedom of expression for everybody) can not be created<strong><b><font
face="Times New Roman">by force</font></b></strong><em><i><font
face="Times New Roman">.</font></i></em></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Wars are
different then naturaldisasters as they are made by human.</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Survivalshould
be the easiest achievement when a group of human being comes
together. So the big question for me is why we are still at that level </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>after 14M
years? why we can not discuss how we can develop alltogether in peace,joy and
richness? why we don't discuss how we can </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>establish a
better cooperation, better ways of exchangeamong different cultures, religions,
regions, countries etc ?</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'> </span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Funda</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>-----
Original Message ----- </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:jack@designinglife.com" title="jack@designinglife.com">Jack
Ricchiuto</a> </span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU"
title="OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE..EDU</a> </span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Thursday, February 10,
2005 4:20 AM</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Re:
Survival of the Cooperative</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></font></p>
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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Reflecting the way
ecologists today are starting to redefine "fitness", author Robert
Ulanowicz defines fitness as “the ability of a species to play a role in
the web of ecological processes.”</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Jack</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>~~~~~~~~~~</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>jack
ricchiuto</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>two.one.six/three.seven.three/seven.four.seven.five</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><a
href="http://www.designinglife.com">www.designinglife.com</a> / <a
href="http://www.appreciativeleadership.org">www.appreciativeleadership..org</a>
</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>------------Original
Message------------</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>From:
Steve Gawron <gawron@megsinet.net></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>To:
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Date:
Wed, Feb-9-2005 6:02 PM</span></font></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Subject:
Re: Survival of the Cooperative</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Hello
Don and all,</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>There
is an interesting book by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi which supports that</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>concept
of survival of ideas in a Darwinian context. The book is called</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>"Flow:
The Psychology of Optimal Experience", ISBN 0-06-016253-8</span></font></p>
</div>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>In
brief, a "flow" experience is akin to reading a book you cannot put
down.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I hope
you enjoy the read.</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Steve
Gawron</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>-----
Original Message -----</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>From:
"Don Ferretti" <dferrett@placer.ca.gov></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>To:
<OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Sent:
Wednesday, February 09, 2005 4:34 PM</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Subject:
Survival of the Cooperative</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>> I
can give you a lot of detail to back this up but I will not take up</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>>
air time here to do that. I just wanted to say that I know for a fact</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>>
that the "survival of the fittest" mantra was not even spoken by
Darwin.</span></font></p>
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But, his whole body of work seems to have been boiled down to that idea.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>> I
have my theory as to why that is. But, if you really look at all of</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>>
that work, the role of cooperation, adaptation and flexibility plays a</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>>
much more important role. We did not make it this far through</span></font></p>
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competition, but through pervasive cooperation.</span></font></p>
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First 5 - Placer CFC</span></font></p>
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