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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I will try to approach very simply to the
question of "are we evil and are conflicts and war natural?"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The only reason for us being so confused about all
these issues is that we are conditioned in a wrong way.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here are many wrong things that we have learned
(taught and made feel)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We need security, we also need being accepted.
But we tend to perceive erroneously following conditions</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>are necessary for
that. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>* we can exist despite each other whereas
we can exist only alltogether.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>* competition, be better than, have more
than others maybe a good motivator for growth but overdose of
it</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>becomes killing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We urgently need to replace these 2
basic beliefs and behaviours (at every moment of our lives) with
following</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>* we can only exist alltogether, <U>so we must
pay attention to well being of others </U></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>* the growth means to share better, to have more we
need to share, giving needs to be appreciated rather than
owning</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>keeping etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We create identities, get divided
under countries, religions looking for power and security..with the fear of
loosing</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>something..but we lose more when we are stuck
in these identities. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To summarize my ideas, our need for
security is <STRONG>natural </STRONG>for life and growth but there
need to be a conflict, evilness</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>around that need
is <STRONG>wrong..</STRONG>but evil is completely<STRONG> real</STRONG> (as
Alex mentioned) </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My ideas are mostly inspired by Krishnamurti and
Steven Harrison's books</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What these ideas have to do with OST?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>i think a real OS is only possible when we
leave our identities </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>and beingness behind...and
only then peace is possible..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>peace is possible when we understand that we
don't </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>need to protect, win or
keep anything..when we leave the space to others willingly, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>fearlessly. </FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Funda</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>sorry for being so serious, but </FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2>those whom i met at OSonOS </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>know that i am not so serious and boring all the
time,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>will write something more fun next
time. </FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mckeague@iprimus.com.au href="mailto:mckeague@iprimus.com.au">Brendan
McKeague</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 15, 2004 3:58
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Practice of Peace in
Sweden--A reflection on the Issue</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV> Alex wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">We cause wars. Us people.
Something in us, some desires, tendencies, needs, whatever, makes us do the
things that start and perpetuate wars. If we didn't have those sides to our
nature, there would be no wars. But here's the question: If we didn't have
those sides to our natures, what else would we be losing? As Tom Waits sings
it: "If I exorcise my devils, well my angels may leave too". Our drive for
destruction also drives much in arts, science, music and life in general
that would not otherwise be possible. Is it worth the price? I don't
know!</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>G'day folks - I've been scanning the list regularly
for a while now - flicking through bits of conversations while doing
some reading among other things - including a fascinating book by <B>Joseph
Chilton Pearce</B> (author of the Crack in the Cosmic Egg), called the <B>The
Biology of Transcendence</B><I>….A Blueprint of the Human Spirit </I>(Park
Street Press, 2002. For further details, see: <A
href="http://www.amazon.com/">Amazon reference </A>)<BR><BR>I'm quoting at
length (below) from the Pearce's introduction to his book - it is very
insightful in light of our 'quest for peace' - and the need for new models of
'evolutionary intelligence' upon which to base our human desires to imitate
(Rene Girard explains the 'mimetic' dimension of behaviour - the need to
imitate others in our 'tribe' so as to 'feed the need' to belong )<BR><BR>My
curiosity, hope and passion combine to posit that, just as the great
individual icons of nonviolence and peace have presented such models of human
evolutionary intelligence, so too does Open Space provide an expression of
evolutionary wisdom in a contemporary shape, a process that has the potential
to enable humans to 'rise and go beyond' ie to transcend....<BR><BR>I wonder
what others think?<BR> <BR><BR>“The ability to rise and go beyond” is the
definition of transcendence and the subject explored in the following pages.
While this force constitutes our nature and fires our spirit, an honest
exploration of it must contend with this counterquestion: Why, with a history
so rich in noble ideals and lofty philosophies that reach for the
transcendent, do we exhibit such abominable behaviours? Our violence towards
ourselves and the planet is an issue that overshadows and makes a mockery of
all our high aspirations.<BR> <BR>….from this background I make two
proposals here that are necessarily hypothetical: First, the crux of our
ever-present crisis hinges on failure to develop and employ both the fourth
and newest brain in our head (one added quite recently in evolutionary
history) and its dynamic interactions with our heart brain. Second, the great
saints and spiritual giants of history (even though overlaid with myth and
fantasy by cultural counterfeits) point towards, represent, or manifest for us
our next evolutionary step, a transcendent event that nature has been trying
to unfold for millennia. <BR> <BR>Creator and created as a co-inspiring
dynamic make imperative a simple natural law: intelligence, no matter how
innate or genetically encoded, can unfold within us only when an actual model
for that intelligence is given us. All dynamics must have their generative
source, even if the source can never be factually determined – if there are
two mirrors reflecting each other in an infinite regress, which one could we
say initiates the reflection? From the beginning of our life, the
characteristics of each new possibility must be demonstrated for us by
someone, some thing, or an event in our immediate environment – but the same
chicken-egg paradox will always emerge if we try to determine or bring closure
to the riddle of an origin.<BR> <BR>This need for a model is acutely the
case with a new and unknown form of intelligence such as that offered by our
fourth brain and heart brain. The striking contrast between our ordinary human
behaviour and the actions of the great beings of our history (Jesus, Krishna,
Lao-tzu, Buddha, Eckhart, George Fox, Peace Pilgrim and a long line of like
geniuses) is what makes these figures stand out in time even as shifting or
warping history itself. Our great beings arise through a natural process
that we will explore here, though the process unfolds in that infinite regress
that obscures its origin. They come into being as models of nature’s newest
possibility, our next evolutionary step manifested by our newest neural
structure, transcending violence to create a new, viable reality.
<BR> <BR>In every case, however, rather than developing the capacities
these great models of history have demonstrated, humankind has projected both
the capacities and the image of the models demonstrating them. That is, we
invariably build religions around our spiritual giants or use them to support
a religion in order to avoid the radical shift of mind and disruption of
culture these rare people bring about, shifts we interpret, ironically, as
threats to our survival and thus instinctively reject. Bioculture
effects, once initiated, tend to self-generate. Projected by us, we perceive
the behaviours demonstrated by our great models as powers out there to which
we are subject, rather than potentials within ourselves to be lived.
<BR> <BR>Our fourth brain is the way by which the intelligence of our
heart can guide the intellect in our head from its ancient survival strategies
to a new and greater form of intelligence. But nature’s dilemma – and thus
ours as we are, in effect, nature herself – has been how to stabilise a new
and largely undefined intelligence in a powerful neural environment millions
of years old. Though nature has provided appropriate models as the
opportunities have arisen, behaviours encoded in our ancient primary brains
are thoroughly entrenched, whereas the new ones offered are tentative at best.
And it is from just this tenuous uncertainty of a higher intelligence locked
into our firmly entrenched survival systems that our wild contrasts of lofty
ideals and deadly real behaviours emerge. <BR> <BR>The following
exploration revolves around the insights gleaned from the research of this new
cadre of biologists and neuroscientists and from the ideals and behaviours
modelled for us by the great beings of our history – specifically by, in my
opinion, the greatest model of all, Jesus. An odd couple to find between
the covers of the same book, you might think – Jesus and the new
biologist. But if we drop the mythical and/or religious projections
surrounding Jesus, we will discover a common ground.<BR> <BR>…As a model
of a new evolutionary intelligence, Jesus met, and continually meets a grim
fate at the hands of this cultural effect. But the cross, the instrument of
his execution, symbolises both death and transcendence for us – our death to
culture and our transcendence beyond it. If we lift the symbol of the cross
from its mythical shroud of state-religion and biblical fairy tale – which is
to say, if we can rescue Jesus from the Christians – then the cross proves to
be the “crack” in our cultural cosmic egg.<BR> <BR>…May this [new one]
throw more light and help us to open ourselves to nature’s new mind, wherein
lies our true survival."<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>* *
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