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<DIV><SPAN class=654062417-07122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Dear
Marei</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=654062417-07122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks
for sharing your thoughts. I think you are right, I do have some belief
change work to do. This conversation has helped me a lot regarding this, and
your contribution is valuable for this process. The actual situation highlights
this very clear for me, since I am sitting on two chairs, both on the board of
the school and facilitating this process of introducing OS-principles to this
work. I guess we each have to find the open leader within ourselves to be able
to find open leaders out there! So I will share with you when these leaders
start popping up!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=654062417-07122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks
again and I hope to meet you again soon!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=654062417-07122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Kind
regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=654062417-07122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thomas
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----<BR><B>Från:</B> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]<B>För </B>Marei
Kiele<BR><B>Skickat:</B> den 7 december 2004 11:26<BR><B>Till:</B>
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B>Ämne:</B> Re: givens and
serendipity<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<P><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2> "Thomas Herrmann" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:thomas@openspaceconsulting.com>"><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>mailto:thomas@openspaceconsulting.com></FONT></A><FONT
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size=2> schrieb:<BR>> Hi HO<BR>> Just to clarify, the givens in this school-example are about to define where<BR>> we (I´m part of the board of the school) would <STRONG><EM>like to have help </EM></STRONG>from the<BR>> parents, not to deny conversations. The OS-meeting will be the start of a<BR>> new organization for the parents-involvement so everyone will choose what<BR>> topic they would like to develop further after that day. We don´t see a need<BR>> <STRONG><EM>(and do not trust!)</EM></STRONG> the parents to get involved with developing the pedagogy<BR>> but of course conversations are welcome and we encourage them all the time.<BR>> The school works out of the "Montessori-pedagogy" - quite open spacy!<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><BR> ...<BR></FONT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><BR>> I really would like to know <STRONG><EM>where you all find leaders who are open to any<BR>> change in their organization and who fully trust their employees to take<BR>> charge</EM></STRONG>!!! Please tell me also HOW you find them!!! Maybe I have to leave<BR>> Sweden??!! And how you find out you found them!!<BR>> It happened to me a few times that I thought I found one but at a not very<BR>> timely place I found out I had not.<BR>> Warmest regards<BR>> Thomas<BR></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Funny thing, what I sensed in your email,
Thomas. It remembered me how much we, ourselves, are connected with what
we see outside. From my work with belief systems during the last months I
came to the belief that the world I perceive is a reflection of my inner
world. And I hope you will forgive me if I use your example to make clear what
I mean.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Not trusting parents to get involved with
developing the pedagogy... looks a lot like not being fully open to change and
not trusting the employees fully to take charge. And like not trusting that
the whole system (teachers and parents together) will define perfectly where
parents can contribute and where teachers are the experts - the by the parents
chosen experts! If the parents don't think the teachers and the board of the
scool are capable, but will intervene in a way that you think might be
disturbing your work - mmmh, why should they send their kids to this scool?
And what a foundation for cooperating is this?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>So my answer to your question on HOW
to find leaders who are fully open to change would be "search inside". This
includes you don't have to leave Sveden :)</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>The more we have this inner freedom the
more often we will meet people outside who are looking for what we offer. And
the better we can adress this part in the other which trusts and
knows - one may call it 'higher self' or differently -
and which is only hidden by a layer of distrust, fear and hindering
beliefs.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>This dialogue on givens showed me very much
how much the way we, the facilitators, want to work and what we offer to
a client is connected with what we personally believe to need. And that
we all, as Joelle wrote, "keep hoping that there might be some small aspects
of life over which we still can exercise control." And I put myself on your
list as well Joelle, and join you, Thomas, in again and again catching me
where I don't trust others to know best what they want, what is needed and to
let go all my planning. Instead I stay with my wanting to make sure I get
the result that seemingly would be the best for me.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>But refering to all the wonderful stuff on
"serendipity" this planned result is obviously not the best that can happen!
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<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Many regards and thank you listserve
community -<BR></FONT><FONT face="Courier New"><FONT size=2>it's such a
pleasure to be part of this.</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Marei</FONT></P>
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