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<DIV><SPAN class=187152002-03122004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080>Hi
Peggy, </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=187152002-03122004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080>We
met in Melbourne, and I've been off the List for a good while, and so pleased to
be back.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=187152002-03122004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#000080>Here are some random thoughts, spontaneous and maybe useful to
hitch-hike with?? My observation is that when academics of like mind
(indeed any group sharing jargon) get together, they discuss in the familiar
vernacular and get lost in intellectual familiarity. The diversity will
cause fantastic creative tension, push people to re-frame what they say and how
they say it, discover new meaning in their own as well as other people's
stuff. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=187152002-03122004><FONT
face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080>I think this is what you've already said,
however some comment about how OS is made for diversity might be helpful to
Tom. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=187152002-03122004><FONT
face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080>Your response is paraphrased perhaps...but if
I was not familiar with OS, I would want to know more about how to let go.
Yoiks, what might the surprises be? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=187152002-03122004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080>In
Sociodrama, we would talk about the role that Tom is taking which is something
like Universal Fixer. OS allows him to develop the roles of Naive
Observer, Skilled Questioner, Light-footed Dancer with Geeks. If it suits
the circumstance, I might muse with/coach Tom about the roles he might take
in order to 'let go', to let him of the hook of I'm responsible for all
this'. That's part of the beauty of OS too. It's so easy once you
"get it".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=187152002-03122004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#000080>Cheers, Ros.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Peggy S.
Holman<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 03, 2004 10:45 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B>Subject:</B> [OSLIST] Academics from
different disciplines<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Friends, </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm looking for examples for a colleague I'm
working with on a conference. He's expressed a concern about OS in a
situation among a group, mostly academics, from different
disciplines. I haven't yet allayed his fears. Our
exchange on the subject is below. I'd appreciate any stories or words of
counsel from you. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for any support on this,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Peggy</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3> 1. I am in the midst of reading George B. Dyson's DARWIN
AMONG THE <BR>> MACHINES: THE EVOLUTION OF GLOBAL INTELLIGENCE.
Brilliantly done, very <BR>> provocative. Lots of stories of
brilliant people in the last 400 years <BR>> envisioning, inventing,
getting in trouble, etc., co-creating (and <BR>> co-being) the dense weave
of our increasingly interdependent world of <BR>> digital and human
intelligence.<BR>><BR>> Aside from the fact that Dyson should be on the
waiting list for the ES, <BR>> there is the fact that I don't understand
10-15% of what he says due to <BR>> jargon and unfamiliar conceptual /
experiential frames. This made me <BR>> wonder: With the ES
[Evolutionary Salon], we are bringing together a fairly diverse group who
<BR>> have fairly diverse languages (jargons) and conceptual/ experiential
<BR>> frames. Will those who are speaking be patient and capable
enough to <BR>> familiarize the newbies to their universes and
languages? Will some of <BR>> the newbies want to get clear each step
of the way, while others will just <BR>> want to move on, riding over the
grey areas of semi-comprehension in <BR>> search of the light ahead?
Will people who already know the language and <BR>> worldview of the
speaker tolerate slow-downs to help others catch up, when <BR>> they could
be surging ahead to some new insight with their same-worldview <BR>>
colleagues?<BR>><BR>> I've never arranged a conference with this
diversity of (not just views <BR>> but) languages and experiential
groundings. Do you <BR>> folks have any ideas about helping such
cross-disciplinary conversations <BR>> work? I may have some other
people I can ask if we don't have the <BR>> expertise among
us.<BR>><BR>>MY RESPONSE </FONT><BR><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3>1. To your concern about people understanding each other, please,
let it go, or be prepared to be surprised. The beauty of open space
is that people get their needs met, with all their differences.
It is DESIGNED for diversity; it's where it shines.<BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial size=2>BACK TO TOM:</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3>> Thanks for the advice, Peggy. Coming from you, I just
might take it! :-)<BR>><BR>> But I'm still wary -- not so much as a
participant (I can tolerate a lot) <BR>> but as a designer (I feel
responsible for not making any bad judgments <BR>> that could have been
avoided). I'm interested in stories involving not <BR>> just
differences in viewpoint, experience, etc., but differences in <BR>>
academic expertise and language. Do you have examples of interdisciplinary
<BR>> academic Open Spaces?<BR><BR>><BR>> When I try to envision
being in an OS session with Dyson and a bunch of <BR>> geeks, I can feel
that either they or I would walk out in frustration. <BR>> That's the law
of two feet at work. AND it is a failure to bridge between <BR>> the
two worlds -- <BR>> which, in our case, is the primary purpose of the
gathering.... How to <BR>> satisfy both
needs...<BR>></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>___________________________________<BR>Peggy
Holman<BR>The Open Circle Company<BR>15347 SE 49th Place<BR>Bellevue, WA
98006<BR>425-746-6274<BR><A
href="http://www.opencirclecompany.com">www.opencirclecompany.com</A> <BR><A
href="mailto:peggy@opencirclecompany.com">peggy@opencirclecompany.com</A>
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