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color="#400080" face="Palatino Linotype" id="role_document"><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype";color:#400080'>Ester Wrote:
Presumably, you mean that the techies and knowledge workers would, as soon as
possible, relinquish their expert stance and graduate to the role of full
participant contributing their own wisdom with that of others - as equals in
the process.</span></font></b></strong></p>
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font-family:"Palatino Linotype";color:#400080'>Sure – but what I was
really thinking about is the circumstances in The DesignShop (or similar
arrangements) where the Techies and Knowledge Workers are not part of the
organization but rather hired hands from the outside. And of course, if the
organization doing the Open Space already has the necessary expertise in-house –
then they should probably be “full participants” from the
beginning.</span></font></b></strong></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>OSLIST</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> [mailto:</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>OSLIST</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Esther Ewing<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Wednesday,
November 17, 2004</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>10:09 AM</span></font><font
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>OSLIST</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: A Note to Phil from The
Old Curmudgeon</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><strong><b><font size=4
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font-family:"Palatino Linotype";color:#400080'>You wrote:</span></font></b></strong></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>What I
am suggesting is that we pull<br>
out all the electronic plugs, bells and whistles - but do that<br>
transparently. It may be "nice" to have techies and knowledge workers<br>
wandering about - but I would want to banish them to the back room and get<br>
rid of them entirely as soon as possible. </span></font></p>
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color="#400080" face="Palatino Linotype"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:"Palatino Linotype";color:#400080'>Presumably, you mean that the
techies and knowledge workers would, as soon as possible, relinquish their
expert stance and graduate to the role of full participant contributing their
own wisdom with that of others - as equals in the process.</span></font></b></strong></p>
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