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<DIV><SPAN class=662594408-12102004><FONT face=Verdana color=#800080>I love the
stories on the list; I told the story of the empty bucket in a 'dutch' way to
some clients who are in a difficult change proces. It helped them to look for
the underlying patterns and not just to focus on the loss of jobs.
thanks!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=662594408-12102004></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=662594408-12102004><FONT face=Verdana color=#800080>And any
translation would be very welcome as well as other stories. I will add one of my
favourithe stories. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=662594408-12102004><FONT face=Verdana
color=#800080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=662594408-12102004><FONT face=Verdana color=#800080>enjoy your
day </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=662594408-12102004><FONT face=Verdana
color=#800080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=662594408-12102004><FONT face=Verdana color=#800080>Carla from
Holland</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
<P><I><FONT face=Verdana>Met vriendelijke groet,</FONT></I> </P>
<P><I><FONT face=Verdana>drs. Carla Vliex </FONT></I><BR><FONT face=Arial
size=1>____________________________________</FONT> <BR><B><FONT face=Arial
size=1>Organisatieadviseur </FONT></B></P>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial size=1>Twynstra Gudde Management Consultants</FONT></B>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Jaime Pedreros
Fitzgerald<BR><B>Sent:</B> maandag 11 oktober 2004 22:15<BR><B>To:</B>
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: empty bucket, a
story<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Hello Lucas!!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks for sharing this wonderful story; I also appreciate the reference
of psp-sa. You have translated very well the main concept of the story.
However, as there are several enriching details, I will try to translate
them too and will post them on the list</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I guess you speak Spanish, which is my mother language; I am also an
OS practitioner with some specific experience in this field. I have two
recent experiences with OS which I will post in detail very soon.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The first one relates to a lecture I gave about OS held in june at
Universidad del Pacifico in Lima, Peru.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The second one is about a "not so open space gathering" in La Paz,
Bolivia, in july. This meeting was called for by the Municipal Government
in La Paz in order to collect proposals to improve the economic
development process of the region (600+ participants). Eight different
and parallel events were tightly structured and organized by topics in
different and distant places. I acted as a facilitator for the one
dealing with Public/Private Policies for the Development of Entrepreneurs
towards economic development (80 people). After day and a half presentations,
trying to focus the audience (half day general and one day specific to each
topic/group) we only had a few hours to elaborate and prioritize a list of
proposals. My group was the only one that used an OS approach. I am sure I
will let you know the details of the process but results were remarkable: each
of the eight groups named a representative to address a
presentation brie fing main results and proposals. Our group could
contribute with proposals, priorities, schedule, responsibibles and
was notoriously several steps-ahead from the others, mainly related to the
feasability of each suggestion. I am absolutely sure that OS made this
difference. Please wait for the details.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Have my warm regards from each day warmer La Paz (it is spring time
here)!!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Jaime</DIV>
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