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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Verdana color=#808080 size=2>Hey
Alex,</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></EM></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Verdana color=#808080 size=2>good to read what you
wrote. I share many of the things you said....including the things about the
wierd stuff..........hahaha........be well my friend.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Verdana color=#808080
size=2>Yawar</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=alexander@kjerulf.com href="mailto:alexander@kjerulf.com">Alexander
Kjerulf</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 04, 2004 3:04
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> My reflections on the Goa OSonOS
(longish)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi<BR><BR>I just got back from India, and here are my
reflections on this years<BR>OSonOS.<BR><BR>First of all there were lots of
things I enjoyed about the OSonOS:<BR><BR> * I met some
wonderful people, some for the first time; some again<BR> *
The place was absolutely wonderful - See for yourself, I
posted<BR> some pictures here: <A
href="http://www.positivesharing.com/Goa">http://www.positivesharing.com/Goa</A><BR>
* I had many great and inspiring conversations outside of the
sessions<BR> * And best of all, we (the Happy at Work
Project) may now have a<BR> shot at creating the
Happy at Work Project, India<BR><BR>BUT :-)<BR><BR>Those of you who were there
know that I was frustrated with the<BR>conference itself. This was also true
at last years event in Denmark<BR>(the first OSonOS I attended) but at that
time I chose not to express it.<BR><BR>During the evening news on the second
day, I presented my observations<BR>on what frustrated me. I realize of course
that these are only my<BR>experiences. Other people may have (and indeed did
have) totally<BR>different experiences. Anyway, here's what frustrated me at
the OSonOS:<BR>*Not much listening.* People seemed more eager to speak than to
listen.<BR>*Not much depth.* Few conversations achieved any real depth, since
many<BR>comments didn't seem to build on what was said earlier in the
conversation.<BR>*Too large groups.* Many (most?) groups had 10 - 20 people in
them,<BR>which of course makes deep conversation and listening more
difficult.<BR>For my taste, I prefer groups with at most 8 people.<BR>*Too
much weird stuff.* Every day of the OSonOS opened with singing,<BR>chanting,
laughter exercises and other "weird stuff" :-) . I have<BR>nothing against
that in itself (and indeed use some of it once in a<BR>while), but it didn't
really add to my experience.<BR>*Experienced OS'ers don't seem open to input*.
The experienced OS people<BR>in the crowd were wonderfully willing to share
their experiences, but<BR>seemed less willing to listen to new
ideas.<BR>*Evening circle takes too long*. The evening circle went on for a
long<BR>time - too long in my opinion.<BR><BR>I say this without any intention
of blame or indictment. Please also<BR>remember that this kind of thing always
looks worse in worse in writing.<BR>And as I said at the conference, I only
say this, because I think the OS<BR>community can deal with it, and should be
given a chance to do so -<BR>rather than just me dealing with it on my own by
not coming to any more<BR>OSonOS'es.<BR><BR>The paradox here is, that all the
conversations I had outside of the<BR>sessions really made my coming there
worthwhile, so my time there was<BR>certainly not wasted. It's just that I
KNOW that OS conversations can be<BR>so much more than what I saw at both this
and last years OSonOS'es.<BR><BR>Now, I'm not going to throw something like
this out there, without also<BR>thinking about what we can do about it, and so
we did a session on that<BR>on the third day. We saw some ideas brewing as to
what we could do to<BR>improve the OSonOS, while at the same time maintaining
(and maybe even<BR>strengthening) all the good things the OSonOS does for the
OS community<BR>already. This is not about revolution, it's about taking an
appreciative<BR>approach to what already works in the OSonOS, and how we can
build on that.<BR><BR>But before we start that, there should be some sort of
buy-in from the<BR>OS community. If the prevailing mood is, that "the OSonOS
is fine, don't<BR>mess with it", then we'll leave it at the. If the mood is
"The OSonOS is<BR>fine, let's make it even more fine", then we might start
with an<BR>appreciative inquiry right here on the list - I'd be happy to get
it going.<BR><BR>What do you
think?<BR><BR>Cheers<BR><BR>Alex<BR><BR>--<BR>Alexander Kjerulf<BR><A
href="mailto:alexander@kjerulf.com">alexander@kjerulf.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.positivesharing.com">http://www.positivesharing.com</A><BR><BR>+45
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