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<DIV><SPAN class=251513522-01092004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080
size=4>I am intrigued by the observation that, during the process
of discussing/thinking whether to accept or not an assignment, it
seems to be unavoidable to include explicit or implicit assumptions
about what will happen and/or what one's contribution will generate.
In other words future outcomes are part of the
considerations.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=251513522-01092004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080
size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=251513522-01092004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080
size=4>What would happen if one started from the
premise that future outcomes cannot be predicted? How would that
affect one's reasoning and decision? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#333333
size=4>Henri</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#333333
size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Lisa
Heft<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 31, 2004 1:20 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: OS and
ethics<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoPlainText><SPAN class=GramE><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Great conversation,
all.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I agree with Harrison that this is about not just OS but
- whatever the methods we use - our own individual thoughts and decisions about
who we can choose to serve and when we draw the line for reasons of conscience
and our own values.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I think for any facilitation job, it is important that
we see if this is the right fit for us as well as the <SPAN
class=GramE>client,</SPAN> and if it is not we can refer that job to someone
else or just say no.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN
class=GramE>And that for me, this is a case-by-case
decision.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I know that there are amazing, healthy people in every
institution or corporation that we see all too easily as a big block of
sameness.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We have the lucky part:
the leaders who ask for Open Space - to me - are the visionaries.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They are the people who say 'I am not in
control - I do not know the answer - we are greater if we tap the wisdom,
passion and responsibility of the greater group'. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">So here I am imagining: some tobacco company supervisor
who wishes to call all the employees of a manufacturing facility together to do
an Open Space on how to re-design their work and their facility so they will
have less on-the-job injuries and a healthier workplace.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That sounds good to me.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Within a weapons manufacturing facility
I would like to think that there are supervisors who might see that their staff
is (let us pretend) grieving a massive layoff - and that Open Space might help
them process that <SPAN class=SpellE>griefwork</SPAN>.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That (though personally I would like
there to be less use for weapons manufacturers and I would like them to close
down) as a service to humans trying to do their best in a very sad environment,
also sounds good to me.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Would I take a job for those companies?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I'm not sure.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I don't like the products and I think
they are doing harm.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But maybe - as
in any contact with a prospective client, as I am getting an intuitive sense for
who they are personally and if I feel it's a 'fit' between us (as much as
whether Open Space would or would not be appropriate as together we clarify
their needs and situation) - just maybe I feel they are one of those jewels
inside a massive organization who are doing a really good thing with their staff
or the surrounding community. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And
that facilitation might help them stay healthier and appreciate each other
more.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I did have a great series of conversations with someone
within a huge organization where we (you and I) might not have agreed with that
organization's product or what we perceive to be their values. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And what they were doing was something
the local residents were not happy with.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>But legislation had already occurred allowing it to happen and so it was
a 'done deal' as they say in the States (for you folks who do not have English
as a first language: it could not be fixed; it was going to happen anyway).<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>However, there was an amazing guy who
worked within this organization who wanted to hold Open Spaces with the
community and with people in his organization who cared about the community
anyway, so they could have a space for anger and grief, for frustration and
hopes, and maybe, just maybe, provide some insight into how things could work
better the next time.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Would you consider doing an Open Space with this guy and
this community?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Actually, he was for other reasons unable to go ahead
with this Open Space. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But I was
going to say yes.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And my greatest
concern is what others would assume about me if they saw that company on my list
of clients.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I wondered if I would
lose some potential work from one organization <SPAN class=GramE>who</SPAN>
might look at my client list and not like another organization they saw
there.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So really this particular
facilitation situation felt good and clean to me but I knew I would wrestle
afterwards with whether to list that organization on my client list or simply
omit it because of what *others* would think about me.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And that's a whole *other* conversation
we could have here.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">At one point in an earlier conversation on this list, I
said that I might even facilitate an Open Space for a gang.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Because I have worked a bit with gangs,
and gee if they wanted to have an Open Space on making peace with another gang
I'd like to help. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Or if they wanted
to figure out how to get more education even though they are not in school, I
would like to help with that, too. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Because in doing an Open Space I also
think I'd help people see each other in new ways, breathe a little bit in a
nutrient-rich environment, experience passion, difference or even rage in a way
that says <SPAN class=GramE>its</SPAN> okay to have feelings, and so on.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Which I think would be glorious for
individuals in that life to be able to feel.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Would I do an Open Space to help a gang figure out how
to obliterate another gang?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Or
<SPAN class=GramE>a tobacco company</SPAN> how to make secret chemicals in candy
addict children to cigarettes before they ever smoked one? <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Or a weapons company to build a mine that
looks <SPAN class=GramE>like</SPAN> a candy wrapper so it could be picked up by
a child?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN
class=GramE>Absolutely not.</SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">But I also wouldn't help a peace organization do an Open
Space on how to burn down a military base. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">So it is case by case which would let me know where to
draw my line.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">Interesting
stuff,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">Lisa<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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