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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes then, we needed to determine who is lazy
and who is hardworker...then tools to decide and to judge</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Funda </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:henri.lipmanowicz@verizon.net"
title=henri.lipmanowicz@verizon.net>Henri Lipmanowicz</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU"
title=OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 09, 2004 1:45 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: learning skills in OS</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS" size=4><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Re. your
question:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS" size=4><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>“</SPAN></FONT><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">We were self-managed, self-organizing. The principles
and law all applied here...So maybe skills can be learned in OS? Other
stories</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=blue face="Comic Sans MS" size=4><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">
“.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS" size=4><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">This is how
we all learned to speak as babies; we didn’t even need a book, certainly not a
grammar, no quotas, no tests and we all made it! This is also how we learned
to stack wooden blocks, use a spoon and trained our parents to pick up what we
dropped on the floor.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS" size=4><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS" size=4><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">The big
difference is that we didn’t know we were studying; we were just playing and
having a ball, learning like sponges but on our own
terms.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS" size=4><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS" size=4><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Then, one
day, some people decided that, since we were playing all the time, it had to
mean that we must be too lazy to study. So they convinced themselves they
should take control of our learning and turn it into a serious, planned and
structured chore. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS" size=4><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS" size=4><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">You know
what happened from that moment on,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS" size=4><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS" size=4><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Henri<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=blue face="Comic Sans MS" size=4><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=blue face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-no-proof: yes"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Raffi Aftandelian<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, July 01, 2005 4:58
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> learning skills in
OS</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Arial Cyr"
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Cyr'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Colleagues,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Arial Cyr"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Cyr'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I forgot to
include one thought on OS:</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">After I was trained in OS, I realized
that I learned Russian in a public US high school essentially in OS in the
mid-80's. Before we were plunged straight into OS, the teacher gave us the
bare minimum for Russian: we learned the letters, pronounciation, and a little
more. Then he said (essentially): "OK, you need to complete 2 chapters per
quarter. You need to do the following written, oral, aural assignments for
each chapter (lists were handed out). What pace you do them is up to you. But
2 chapters is the quota. If you complete more than 2 chapters, you get a 2%
bonus for each additional chpater. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">So we went to class each day, we could
sit quietly and study; we could ask each other questions and figure out the
grammar by ourselves. The teacher almost never "taught" anything. Rather, he
was available whenever we wanted to complete an assignment. If we thought we
were ready to do an oral exercise, we banded together with others who were
ready too and approached the teacher, who conducted the oral grammar exercise
with us. If we successfully did the assignment, he would sign our task sheet;
one more task had been completed; one more step closer to finishing the
chapter. With time, other students were deemed knowledgeable enough to conduct
certain exercises instead of the teacher- and sign off for the
teacher.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">We were self-managed, self-organizing.
The principles and law all applied here...</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">So maybe skills can be learned in
OS?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Other
stories?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Raffi</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>* *
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