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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:blue'>Re. your question:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:blue'><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>“</span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>We were self-managed, self-organizing.
The principles and law all applied here...So maybe skills can be learned in OS?
Other stories</span></font><font size=4 color=blue face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:blue'> “.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:blue'>This is how we all learned to speak as babies; we didn’t even
need a book, certainly not a grammar, no quotas, no tests and we all made it! This
is also how we learned to stack wooden blocks, use a spoon and trained our
parents to pick up what we dropped on the floor.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:blue'>The big difference is that we didn’t know we were studying;
we were just playing and having a ball, learning like sponges but on our own
terms.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:blue'>Then, one day, some people decided that, since we were playing all
the time, it had to mean that we must be too lazy to study. So they convinced
themselves they should take control of our learning and turn it into a serious,
planned and structured chore. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:blue'>You know what happened from that moment on,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:blue'>Henri<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=blue face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Raffi Aftandelian<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, July 01, 2005 4:58
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> learning skills in OS</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Arial Cyr"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Cyr"'>Colleagues,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Arial Cyr"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Cyr"'>I forgot to include one
thought on OS:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>After I was trained in OS, I realized that I learned
Russian in a public US high school essentially in OS in the mid-80's. Before we
were plunged straight into OS, the teacher gave us the bare minimum for
Russian: we learned the letters, pronounciation, and a little more. Then he
said (essentially): "OK, you need to complete 2 chapters per quarter. You
need to do the following written, oral, aural assignments for each chapter (lists
were handed out). What pace you do them is up to you. But 2 chapters is the
quota. If you complete more than 2 chapters, you get a 2% bonus for each
additional chpater. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>So we went to class each day, we could sit quietly and
study; we could ask each other questions and figure out the grammar by
ourselves. The teacher almost never "taught" anything. Rather, he was
available whenever we wanted to complete an assignment. If we thought we were
ready to do an oral exercise, we banded together with others who were ready too
and approached the teacher, who conducted the oral grammar exercise with us. If
we successfully did the assignment, he would sign our task sheet; one more task
had been completed; one more step closer to finishing the chapter. With time,
other students were deemed knowledgeable enough to conduct certain exercises
instead of the teacher- and sign off for the teacher.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>We were self-managed, self-organizing. The principles
and law all applied here...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>So maybe skills can be learned in OS?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Other stories?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Raffi</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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